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Posted by sandebert 8 hours ago

Flipper One – we need your help(blog.flipper.net)
838 points | 368 commentspage 5
Deprogrammer9 5 hours ago|
I would REALLY like to see the Piratebox project added into this amazing all in one device.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PirateBox

R_mand 8 hours ago||
“The two processors communicate over a set of interfaces we call the Interconnect: SPI carries the framebuffer to the MCU for display output”

Even with peripheral DMA this idea sounds terrifying.

bradfa 7 hours ago|
It's a pretty normal thing to do for small LCD screens. Linux has had SPI framebuffer support via fbtft subsystem (in staging tree now, previously was out of tree) for well over a decade. It works quite well.
leobuskin 6 hours ago||
@zhovner, would you consider reverse engineering of the blobs as a temporary measure? in 2026 it's very doable and scales
zhovner 6 hours ago|
We're currently negotiating with Rockchip and will first try to convince them to open source. This particular binary isn't a problem right now. I'm sure it will be open source sooner or later. All efforts are currently focused on hardware validation, and software is being developed only in areas where hardware verification is required.
sigmaris 6 hours ago||
Since this is a portable battery-powered device, rather than first pushing to open-source the DDR training blob, which is non-resident in memory after it's done it's job and a fairly small binary (less chance for hiding bugs), I'd say it's more important to get open-sourced the support in the BL31 Trusted Firmware for dynamic voltage and frequency scaling of DRAM, and support for maximum power savings in suspend mode.

Rockchip have not fully open-sourced the DRAM DVFS support in BL31, but it's key to achieving full run-time battery life on portable devices - see https://xnux.eu/log/083.html

And the system suspend implementation that Rockchip did open-source in upstream BL31 lacks some functionality compared to their binary BL31, mostly about powering off as many peripherals as possible to save power.

I'm not saying don't bother opening the DDR training, just that these two things are much more important for a portable battery-powered device.

0xbadcafebee 5 hours ago||
If I wanted all of that, at that size, I would just use a laptop with USB/PCIe/M.2 expansions. I don't really care about openness, I care about functionality (and not having to carry extra stuff around)
ckemere 6 hours ago||
Curious about the design choice. Why not use the TI parts with integrated microcontrollers rather than two separate chips? Or even a FPGA with integrated ARM9 like the Zynq family?
ranger_danger 6 hours ago|
Why not FPGA?

In my experience... cost, availability and power.

cdnsteve 4 hours ago||
This is like a combination of a Sony Walkman meets Rasberry PI meets the prepper in me. Perfect.
mritchie712 8 hours ago||
for reference, Flipper Zero was $199.

does anyone know how much they're thinking for Flipper One?

ymolodtsov 7 hours ago||
https://gizmodo.com/the-company-behind-the-flipper-zero-hack...

>> Flipper’s goal is to sell the device for around $350.

GJim 6 hours ago||
With that money going to Russia.

Just sayin'.

EDIT: The above is a perfectly factual statement about the Flipper. The downvotes are presumably coming from the pro-Russia bots and shills.

theragra 5 hours ago|||
Flipper One founders live and operate from London, as is the company. Pavel Zhovner has (or had at least) Ukrainian citizenship.

Terrible to always see misinformation from people who don't even check basics.

piyuv 6 hours ago||||
Where would you prefer it to go?
lstodd 6 hours ago|||
The entirety of your comment has no basis in fact.

Speaking as someone who watched the first flipper prototypes being soldered by hand.

sschueller 7 hours ago|||
Before or after the AI collapse of 2026/27. I would say at least $499 without the addition of inflated memory pricing.
nicman23 7 hours ago||
grand at min
glitchc 4 hours ago|
Do all closed blobs need to be open? Why pick RK3567 when RK3562 is already supported in Debian?
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