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Posted by theletterf 9 hours ago

Magnifica Humanitas(www.vatican.va)
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plotti 1 hour ago|
The answer is sortition a.k.a. democracy by lot. From my subjective understanding it is The only institutional democracy variant that puts a firewall between money and power.
ugh123 1 hour ago||
A 2 term limit would be a good start
lstodd 1 hour ago||
You can't have money without it being power. So no, you can't have a firewall between them.
twoodfin 5 hours ago||
AI tends to amplify the power of those who already possess economic resources, expertise and access to data

I’d bet the other way: You could have said exactly the same thing about computing 60 years ago, when IBM systems cost millions of dollars and filled whole rooms. And of course many people did.

Personal, commodity access to compute won, and won so thoroughly that it enabled this wave of scary compute centralization.

Centralized, scaled compute will always fill a purpose. But neither Microsoft, nor Facebook, nor OpenAI started out needing “Cloud Scale”.

The first one man unicorn startup will, I’m fairly certain, not be paying Anthropic per month or per token for the vast bulk of their matmul.

tensor 15 minutes ago|
As someone who created and exited a successful AI startup in the past, I'll say it's actually quite different today. Even I don't have the funds to start a foundational model company, and I absolutely wouldn't before my exit either.

While I do believe there may be valid path forward with smaller models, there are still significant financial barriers to entry that didn't exist to the same extent in the past.

_doctor_love 2 hours ago||
> We are also witnessing a disconcerting loss of historical memory, as first-hand accounts of the Holocaust and the two World Wars are disappearing. This leads to a selective or distorted rewriting of the past, in a context where fake news and the manipulation of narratives obscure the lessons that have been learned. Without a living memory of the horrors of war, political decisions risk being made on the basis of power alone, without any consideration for the long-term consequences.

Very true. Observed in Hiroshima as well.

Education in the United States especially is highly sanitized when it comes to the dropping of the atomic bombs and the horrors of the Holocaust.

bzmrgonz 2 hours ago||
I am confused with the church's stand on this. If it is a genuine moment in time that the created begin to create on their own accord, then why not promote the distribution of these ai creations to us, so we can boost our productivity and carry on for another millenia or two. Or is it that this creation truly gives us independence from church, state, and consumerism? and that frightens them? Remember that there are 3 main powers in the world, political, religious and consumerism. CHina is aggressively pursuing humanoid droids. I can't wait to have one droiding(manning) my homestead. The task of animal husbandry, aquaponics, etc, will be childsplay then.
shepherdjerred 2 hours ago||
> Remember that there are 3 main powers in the world

Michael Scott: There are four kinds of business: tourism, food service, railroads, and sales.

[pause]

Michael Scott: And hospitals/manufacturing. And air travel.

theflyinghorse 1 hour ago|||
Why should you posses a homestead? What value do you produce that droid can't that would make you deserving of anything at all? Why should corporations that design, manufacture and program the droid not own the land instead?

We need to very rapidly decouple human worth from the economic lens otherwise the economic argument is against humans.

regularization 1 hour ago|||
Interesting how politicians, preachers and consumers are the powers in the world but rich people are missing from the equation.
exe34 1 hour ago||
> I can't wait to have one droiding(manning) my homestead.

How's your transducer lobe developing?

speak_plainly 4 hours ago||
I know lots of people are excited because an ancient institution has something to say about AI.... But what's said is not really novel or even interesting.

The letter aims to maintain the status quo of the project of the Church.

The world is shifting under the Vatican's feet and the crappy system they once lorded over is done.

It's time for change, maybe people don't need to work anymore and maybe people should aim to reengineer humanity and eliminate illness, old age, suffering and vulnerability. We can fundamentally change how society distributes wealth.

Some of the arguments are rich coming from the Church: being scolded about centralization of power, claiming truth and shared information is a common good, and consider the history of the Church in their anti-war declarations.

The most astonishing thing in this letter is the pope declaring that modern technology has rendered Aquinas's just-war theory out of date.

sirnicolaz 2 hours ago|
"people should aim to reengineer humanity and eliminate illness, old age, suffering and vulnerability"

sure, that's exactly where AI is headed.

also: just imagine a world where people don't age. just imagine it for a second.

coffeefirst 58 minutes ago|||
Like this? https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-postmortal-a-novel-drew-mag...

(I highly recommend the book. I do not recommend the world it imagines.)

Curosinono 1 hour ago|||
I seen this movie but it was a dystopian movie.

I can imagine an utopia though were this works out well. I can even imagine that after 100 years or 200 a lot more people become more melowed out and our society overall will be more calm.

fooker 3 hours ago||
This is a surprisingly nuanced and technically literate take on this topic. Kudos.

I wonder if this sort of thing got this dude elected, to navigate the changing times.

consumer451 10 minutes ago|
I believe that Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah was there, and available for consultation.
wald3n 2 hours ago||
Love this: building for the common good means accepting the limits and weakness of humanity without considering them an error to be corrected. Today, the human desire for fullness of life is at risk of being misled by deceitful goals, such as the prospect of a technology that promises to free us from all weakness, and models of wellbeing that leave behind entire populations. All too often, we place our hope in unlimited “upgrades,” in forms of progress that exacerbate inequalities, and in immediate solutions incapable of healing people’s wounds. As a result, while some pursue the illusion of unlimited self-assertion, many are deprived of basic necessities.
layer8 5 hours ago||
Overview article: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2026-05/pope-leo-xiv...
stared 4 hours ago||
My secular take: "we want Star Trek, not Philip K. Dick, future".
cucho 3 hours ago|
Here is an easier to read version, in clean markdown: https://github.com/cucho/magnifica-humanitas/blob/master/mar...
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