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Posted by theletterf 14 hours ago

Magnifica Humanitas(www.vatican.va)
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hugodan 12 hours ago|
Yes, but can the pipe draw a pelican riding a bike?
theletterf 12 hours ago|
For a moment I pictured the Jesuits training their own LLM. If Arthur C. Clarke was still alive, we'd read a story like The Star, but with AI as the main plot device.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_%28Clarke_short_story...

redfloatplane 12 hours ago|||
Ah, an opening to recommend The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell, about a Jesuit going to space to speak with aliens. It won the Arthur C Clarke Award in 1998. I read it recently and it has stuck with me very strongly!
jimbosis 11 hours ago||||
Forgive me if this isn't what you meant, but a Jesuit has trained his own LLM:

https://www.magiscenter.com/magisai

From the "Core Features" tab: "Trusted sourcebase: answers are consistent with Catholic Church Teaching and the most contemporary scholarship in science, philosophy, history, scriptural exegesis, social science, and theology."

The Jesuit priest behind this is Fr. Robert J. Spitzer, S.J., Ph.D.

https://www.magiscenter.com/father-spitzer

I haven't used magisAI, but I've read a small to fair amount of Fr. Spitzer's writings, and also seen and heard some of his videos and podcasts (largely from his show Fr. Spitzer's Universe), and probably qualify as a big fan of his.

https://ondemand.ewtn.com/Home/Series/ondemand/video/en/fr-s...

https://www.ewtn.com/tv/shows/father-spitzers-universe

P.S. In case you are wondering about the glasses he wears or his appearance in photographs, he suffers near blindness due to retinitis pigmentosa:

https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/latest-news-on-fr-spitzers-... [2018]

EDIT: Formatting.

Forgeties79 11 hours ago|||
Now I’m thinking of “The Nine Billion Names of God” (which I actually read because someone here linked it!) and I’m a little nervous lol
stevenalowe 9 hours ago||
I’m sure a similar epistle long ago argued that Swordsmiths must ensure that their products are only used for justifiable self-defense.

I’d be thrilled if religion was only used to uplift people but that’s not going to happen either

throwaway5752 7 hours ago||
This is history in the making. We're living in an evil time - bad people are stealing from humanity, using conflict to distract, and acquiring personal power out of greed. This will be one of the greatest moments in the papacy, and I expect if there are people around to read it, it will be talked about in a thousand years.
amai 10 hours ago||
Has someone done an AI generated summary ;-)
tancop 12 hours ago||
for me the most important point in this is about how ai and tech in general concentrates power. if we want to build something good (in a moral sense) we need to put in work and make sure as many people as possible can use it with equal access.

this basically implies only open source models can be ethical but open source is not sufficient, you also need to make them give true information and avoid all kinds of harmful behavior. thats kind of a problem because if your weights are public even with a strict license a "bad" user can always fine tune it to remove any guardrails.

i think the solution for this is make sure the default behavior is aligned but let users turn on wild mode with zero censorship/refusals. that way everything is opt in, for example a parent can disable the mode for their children but a hacktivist or diy chemist can unlock everything.

as a self described good person i believe theres a lot more good people than bad people in the world (most are neutral) so if access to tech is equal the good side always wins. the problem here is again that access is not equal under capitalism. but thats a political thign not a tech one.

tete 9 hours ago|
> as a self described good person i believe theres a lot more good people than bad people in the world (most are neutral) so if access to tech is equal the good side always wins. the problem here is again that access is not equal under capitalism. but thats a political thign not a tech one.

I believe there are mostly people who think they are good. And as the proverb goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

block_dagger 6 hours ago||
I wonder if they used AI to write or edit any of this.
sunshine-o 8 hours ago||
I read as long as my attention span would allow because this is a very long text.

I am curious, what is the view of different religions on conversing with something that is not human like a chatbot?

celpgoescheeew 5 hours ago||
fick die kirche ihr hurensöhne
booleandilemma 8 hours ago||
I like how the pope is emerging as a sort of champion of human rights in the face of AI, when the messaging coming from our politicians and corporate overlords is "you're all going to be replaced, make way for the data centers, peons". I stand with the pope.
tharmas 8 hours ago|
I stand with the Pope, also.

Sadly, the politicians are all bought off by the powerful and rich elite. And the ones who aren't are soon hounded out.

What does the "The West" stand for? They (the Elites and the politicians) said human rights etc. But Gaza proved that a lie. Gaza happened in "broad daylight" and the Western leaders did nothing at best, and at worst demonized those who spoke out, as supporters of terrorists.

booleandilemma 8 hours ago||
I used to believe it was human rights also, and maybe it was, but now the aim seems to be: profit at all and any cost.
GuB-42 8 hours ago|
> A more moral AI is not enough if that morality is determined by a few

Particularly ironic considering the history of the Church.

I mean, it is not wrong, but that's essentially the business of essentially every church, religion, cult,... whatever you call your spiritual organization.

goosejuice 7 hours ago|
And for claiming to have some authority on social justice when women are shunned from priesthood and leadership roles. At least they're coming around a little bit with the first woman appointee of a head of a dept of the roman curia in 2025.

Between the Canadian residential schools and sexual abuse scandals alone, it's shocking that people actually look to the holy see as any kind of moral authority. Nevermind the connections to slavery, fascism, and even the cosa nostra.

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