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Posted by IAmGraydon 4 hours ago

Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis(techcrunch.com)
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lbrito 1 hour ago|
I've noticed a spike of articles with apparently anti-AI titles, but once you dig in a few paragraphs its actually a "this is just a fair warning from such-and-such, which by no means is an anti-AI bigot, and is actually a fervent AI high priest".

This is getting ridiculous. Articles like this never bring a fair criticism of the many blatant concerns around AI. Its always an astroturfing-esque ad from the AI clergy. The disclaimers ("It’s important to note that Levie is not an AI hater. Quite the opposite.") imply that to even be heard, you must be an AI fanatic - anything else is bigotry and should be ignored.

joshstrange 1 hour ago||
> Still, some of these stories are surprising. Zeb Evans, the CEO of project management and productivity software startup ClickUp, proudly declared on X that he had laid off almost a quarter of his employees — 22% — after rolling out about 3,000 AI agents to do internal work.

As someone who is forced to use ClickUp I can tell you that it's not good software. It wasn't good before this layoff and it hasn't improved since [0]. I could write quite a few words on why ClickUp is terrible but I can promise you that throwing more "AI" at it isn't going to fix what's wrong. The issues are deep and not the type of thing LLM excel at IMHO.

My _favorite_ is how crap search is. Sometimes it will take upwards of 5-10s+ to return results and they are often wrong (I search for the exact name and it tells me "no results"). ClickUp has single-handedly driven me deep back into using bookmarks since the search is such trash. That plus random spinners that never go away, lists that re-order themselves when you change anything on a ticket (not a field related to sorting), stale state UI, things randomly disappearing, "Ticket moved to list" only to refresh and find it wasn't moved, it's really annoying and we curse ClickUp every single day.

Last thing I'll say is the amount of flatulence-sniffing going on over there must be at an all-time-high if their 4.0 (or was it 4.1? Who cares) release is any indication. The new design was ho-hum (just moved a bunch of things around and we turned on all the flags we could to get back to the old way since the new way sucks) but was most egregious was this full-page take-over with a big gradient animation announcing the new release. That happened on _every single tab_ you had open. So for a few days after the release I'd open an older tab only to be greeted by the same dog-and-pony show for a product I despise using and and update that only made a bad product worse.

All that to say: Mr Evens does not know what he is talking about.

[0] I have no clue when the layoff happened but it's been consistently shit so I can state that it hasn't improved with complete confidence.

davinci123 2 hours ago||
Majority of the CEOs are not using it themselves so they have no idea the real-life issues of building with AI. They believe whatever they read on Twitter. They assume if they throw AI at the problem, reduce headcount, flatten the org - miraculously everything will be solved. Many companies are up for a reality check and the AI-calypse is coming...
JohnMakin 2 hours ago||
> , models will “be able to complete most text-related tasks with success rates of, on average, 80%–95% by 2029 at a minimally sufficient quality level.”

If this is true, then companies should focus on hiring juniors out of college. The investment is less risky.

However, I don't personally believe this number and timeline is true, but if you do, the conclusion should be to wait and invest in humans.

Ekaros 2 hours ago||
10% failure rate? Wouldn't that be depending on task disastrous? Or possibly expensive?

I think any juniors who keep failing 10% of text based task will eventually get fired... So investing in those that don't fail seems only sensible move as usual.

mlhpdx 1 hour ago||
Oof. And how much more expensive will the models be to get that 80%?
erikerikson 2 hours ago||
Hah. Prescription for CEO AI psychosis: buy more AI, invest more time in AI, this naysayer says you can make 100x organizations!
rib3ye 1 hour ago||
Gotta love the authority of headlines using "apparently".
joshuawright11 2 hours ago||
I like to call this TDS (token derangement syndrome)
abalashov 53 minutes ago|
Stealing.
isx726552 1 hour ago||
VCs, too:

https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health

(From last year…)

lbrito 2 hours ago|
And there was a comment here on HN just a few days ago saying "AI psychosis is not a real thing".
dude250711 2 hours ago|
An outside observer is needed for an accurate diagnosis. The patients themselves are unaware.
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