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Posted by stagas 18 hours ago

Show HN: Hallucinate – Massively Multiplayer Online Rave(hallucinate.site)
https://github.com/stagas/hallucinate
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gloosx 14 hours ago|
Making movement on IJKL instead of WASD is kind of evil
stagas 14 hours ago||
My arrow keys are broken.
stagas 9 hours ago|||
WASD is now the default, Tab changes between layouts.
doomvwr 14 hours ago||
Good for lefties!
somewhatgoated 12 hours ago||
A bit off topic but as someone left handed I use my keyboard and mouse in exactly the same way as right handed people.

It was much easier to get used to this than figure out a custom lefthanded setup.

johnisgood 11 hours ago||
Same... I am left handed and I use the mouse with my right hand, and WASD would have been much more ergonomic.
0xbadcafebee 17 hours ago||
I like it! but without ability to execute own dance moves, not really dancing... Tried with keyboard but it didn't work.. Now imagining infrared webcam thing and some DIY stick on reflective things.. set up your own rave cave, attach sensors, dance, your virtual self mirrors... now you're raving
embedding-shape 12 hours ago||
You're basically describing VRChat raves :)
stavros 15 hours ago|||
That would be great, can you make a PR for it?
NuclearPM 11 hours ago||
That’s a weird thing to say.
0xbadcafebee 6 hours ago||
Not weird, that's how open source works
tardedmeme 14 hours ago||
You could also actually go to a rave. It should be easier than setting up your VR environment.
embedding-shape 12 hours ago|||
I'd recommend the same, dancing with strangers is very different than dancing at home alone.

With that said, not everyone lives in locations where these sort of parties are accessible, for some it's multiple hours away and not always doable. I'm happy both exists, but obviously, prefer in-person events myself any day of the week, and if people haven't experienced it before, they definitely should :)

0xbadcafebee 6 hours ago|||
I would need to drive 4 hours to get to a city that has raves, pay for a hotel, parking, entrance fee, and it would take 24 hours of my time
tardedmeme 2 hours ago|||
Then search for weekend music festivals, which are usually longer than a weekend. Not Coachella because I hear that ones been enshittified, but like Coachella except good.

The longest one I know runs for 6 days, Wednesday to Monday. Not everyone stays there the whole time. It's awesome. Although the more awesome one I know was Thursday night to Monday morning.

Do try to stay for the last night. At least here in Europe, the crowd who doesn't go home on Sunday night is the most interesting crowd.

anigbrowl 4 hours ago|||
And? Back in the day people used to regularly go from northern California to southern and vice versa for a good party

By people I mean me, I'm sure some people are still doing it

0xbadcafebee 2 hours ago||
And, I'm saying what you want is different than what I want, and not everybody has to do what you want
voodooEntity 12 hours ago||
Damn :D even tho i prolly just gonne use it this single team, it kinda made my day :) very cool thing - just a collaborative experience to enjoy !
strongscot 11 hours ago||
Awesome app, spent 10 mins on it and had a good time - thank you!

One question, not requesting a change, just looking for a "why" type comment; why did you make it so you can change the progress of the videos playing?

Reason I ask is, seems to be it would be more immersive/mmo-y, if everyone was experiencing the same thing as the same time.

Thanks!

stagas 9 hours ago|
Thanks! The plan is what you're describing, we're just not there yet.
M4v3R 16 hours ago||
Fun idea! I was surprised that it loaded on mobile and UI was kinda reasonable but I could tap any buttons to move or do anything. I’ll look into sending a PR for fixing that.
stagas 15 hours ago||
That would be amazing. I think it would require a complete rethinking for mobile/tablet a different branch of controls.
QuantumNomad_ 15 hours ago||
You already have all the buttons on screen. Making them clickable would make it usable on mobile.
stagas 9 hours ago||
Mobile/tablet works now. Tap to target to walk there.
sodafountan 2 hours ago||
Are the DJs live?
ilvez 11 hours ago||
Where is jungle basement or something for those who like their beats broken?
ChrisNorstrom 2 hours ago||
I think most of these players aren't real :( they're bots, I catch them teleporting to certain places, also as soon as I sit down in their spot they get up, and it seems real players don't they just continue sitting.
goykasi 16 hours ago|
And it was immediately fouled by racism.
adzm 15 hours ago||
Yeah that's not very PLUR :(
embedding-shape 12 hours ago||
I've been a raver for decades, not until I jumped into reddit I started reading and seeing people writing about "PLUR" (Peace Love Unity Respect) a bunch. Our little community never really interacted with the US side of things, and never used any acronyms or "sayings" like that, it was just built-in into the community, and people running around saying stuff like that would be kind of inauthentic and borderline sketchy. Just be that, no need to say it or remind others.

Kind of fun and interesting how the two electronic music scenes are very similar, but things like that remind me how different it is in say Europe than the US, even though the vibes are obviously similar and more or less the same, just way more implicit, not so "Look like this and do that".

evanelias 6 hours ago||
In the US, it's been a concept for almost the entire time the scene has existed. In the early 90s, PLUR was popularized by Frankie Bones, who had essentially founded the east coast US scene a few years prior.

By the late 90s it was more of an implicit ethos -- you'd read about it and see it on flyers, but running around and saying it too often would indeed be considered inauthentic and rather cringe. Although, a bigger one around that time was use of the word "rave"; it was always "party" instead, to the extent that using the r-word in person was a huge faux pas which basically indicated you were either a poser or undercover law enforcement. And a "party" was always distinct from a weekly or monthly event at a club, and definitely not the same thing as a festival.

That's all quite a bit different in today's scene though, which has been thoroughly commercialized and mainstreamed for the past 15 years, ever since SFX started pouring major dollars into "EDM" events.

embedding-shape 5 hours ago||
Thanks for that bits of history :)

> That's all quite a bit different in today's scene though, which has been thoroughly commercialized and mainstreamed for the past 15 years

Shame to hear, Europe surely feels a ton different than 10-20 years ago, but still there is something authentic behind most events I'm still going to, tend to be the smaller ones, might be why.

But these most exists still today in the US/North America as well? I know for sure you can find those sort of events in Mexico for sure, but maybe today they've done the same with the electronic music events as they did with local broadcasting TV and it's all been centralized by now, would be sad to hear.

evanelias 3 hours ago||
I'm sure they still exist here, but the economic realities make it challenging in my area (NYC)... even smaller events must be totally oversold, in order for the promoters to not go broke. So it's hard to find room to dance, and there's lots of people talking loudly everywhere, etc. And the headliners often start their sets at an absurdly late hour.

There are still some underground parties, but most of the ones I've been to in modern times have been a bit "off". In some cases the promoters are attempting to recreate a 90s/early'00s vibe, but they aren't old enough to have actually experienced one, so they're just basing it off the ridiculous exaggerated thing they saw in some movie. They'll overspend on decorations but underspend on DJs. And they'll do things like wait to send out the address of the "super secret underground venue" until the day of the event, but then it turns out to be some totally normal event space that anyone can rent.

Probably there are still some actual unlicensed/renegade parties somewhere here but I haven't found them. The only ones I have come across have been a bit of a different scene, more like experimental electronic that doesn't lend itself to dancing, no real overlap with the genres that were played at raves.

edit to add: no idea why you're getting downvoted above. fwiw your comment about PLUR totally aligns with what I've heard from others in Europe.

jazzpush2 15 hours ago||
Not sure why you're being downvoted - I had a blast until the inevitable edgelords spamming the N word. Maybe worth someone adding a PR to filter out such words.
stagas 15 hours ago|||
Yeah, I added some but they find ways around it. Eventually I'm monitoring and blocking ips manually. Needs an admin area to make this easier.
goykasi 15 hours ago|||
Its inevitable in public spaces, especially when there is an ounce of anonymity.
postalcoder 14 hours ago|||
you could use llama guard or openai's omni-moderation model to flag bad actors
jackb4040 7 hours ago|||
You can downvote on HN?
ge96 7 hours ago||
Maybe the icon shows up when you hit a certain karma number I see it myself
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