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Posted by Bolat14 6 hours ago

Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup(qazinform.com)
376 points | 416 commentspage 4
setnone 5 hours ago|
my take it's because of the naming: Amodei, Claude and Mythos have this money-throwing vibe to it
robot_jesus 5 hours ago||
Pointless article (like much of the AI marketing hotness and spin room).

> The new valuation is nearly three times higher than the company’s February valuation, when Anthropic was estimated to be worth around $380 billion.

> In March, OpenAI was valued at $852 billion following a record $122 billion funding round.

Basically, today (Late May) we're declaring Anthropic the most valuable. They've nearly tripled in value since February. But also, OpenAI was $852B in March and presumably has grown since then.

In a few weeks we'll either have a new rounding of funding for OpenAI or they'll announce their IPO and the hype train will be abuzz that they're now the most valuable.

iqandjoke 4 hours ago||
Some says the founder worked at Baidu before. Is that true?
spacebacon 5 hours ago||
Investors of both should read this: https://open.substack.com/pub/sublius/p/srt-introspect-why-c...
pingou 5 hours ago||
"Investors who have poured hundreds of billions into closed-source labs are betting on an unprovable safety moat".

Nobody is investing in closed-source labs for safety reasons, being able to explore more in details what and how the model is thinking is nice but by no means a game changer. What matters to investors and most of the users is that the model gives the right answer at the end.

spacebacon 4 hours ago||
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micromacrofoot 4 hours ago||
they don't care, they're driving towards a cliff full speed and are all counting on jumping out at the right moment
spacebacon 4 hours ago||
Yeah about that
nullbio 4 hours ago||
This is depressing. Anthropic really is the last company we want to see leading this race, given how greedy they are. Let's not forget all of the lying and gaslighting too. The creator of OpenClaw made this I believe: https://clawd.rip

Stealing peoples tokens because you use a product they don't like... That shows the morals they have. Actions speak louder than words. Disabling peoples caches because they disable telemetry was another juicy one that I don't believe is on this site. In fact there are far more I remember that aren't even listed here.

frugalmail 5 hours ago||
Bummer, they are the least friendly to open source, and the most incompatible with free use of your subscription via your own tools/custom harnesses.
lysace 6 hours ago||
The models aside, my impression is that Anthropic is winning in large part because of very pragmatic and high-velocity product development on top of them; like with Claude Code.

Like actually iterating hard to make them useful. Many, many details matter here.

I haven't tested the similar OpenAI/Google tools in detail lately though. Previously I found them way too generic and unpolished to be useful.

Is there something to this?

wongarsu 5 hours ago||
My impression as well. OpenAI was riding the high of ChatGPT with a very confusing and seemingly unfocused offering beyond that. Anthropic was always laser focused on business use cases. Claude Code being the big one. Finance seems to be their next target.

Anthropic has much narrower capabilities. No image generation, no video generation, no 3d world models, barely any voice stuff. But they know who their target customers are, and their API has a model selection anyone can understand and pricing that rarely changes. Focus and predictably

nzoschke 2 hours ago|||
My impression too.

Claude Desktop, Cowork, Code, Design all get meaningful new features week over week.

I can’t recall another vendor with such focus and velocity.

Google products are evolving at a glacial pace. OpenAI isn’t as focused on what knowledge workers need.

lysace 1 hour ago||
Velocity: The closest is perhaps NCSA Mosaic/Netscape in 1993-1995. It's exhilarating to follow.

Both Google and OpenAI appear to be stuck in some abstract strategy where they keep shipping new demos instead of iterating on actual products.

datakan 5 hours ago||
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gunju84 4 hours ago||
I think claude is much better than Chatgpt
sergiotapia 4 hours ago|
A sign of a bad developer is they cannot fathom switching from claude cli. In their mind it's claude or nothing. Despite things like codex existings. Opencode existing. Cursor + Compose 2.5 existing.

These are the new .net developers who will know nothing but c# for 20 years.

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