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Posted by mooreds 15 hours ago

Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot(www.fieggen.com)
499 points | 190 commentspage 7
carterschonwald 12 hours ago|
the moment this clicked after reading it a few years ago its been my daily driver. that resource is a treasure
robot_jesus 9 hours ago|
Agreed 100%. But for me it was many, many years ago. But this is my daily shoelace knot and it works amazingly well.
kimjune01 8 hours ago||
oh this again, i found this on stumbleupon circa 2007
vrganj 11 hours ago||
Great knot and amazing site. It has a distinct "old internet" feel to it, and I mean that as nothing but a compliment. I miss those days, pre platforms capturing everything and making us angry at each other for their engagement metrics.
oldandboring 12 hours ago||
Learned the Ian knot back in my early 20s (25 years ago now). Pound for pound this is easily in my top 10 highest value things I've ever done/learned. My shoes do NOT come untied anymore, period, ever.

Funny thing is, if you don't know how to tie it, you probably just notice how it looks when it's done (almost exactly like the granny bowtie) so you (understandably) assume it's just a different method to arrive at the same result, like how bunny-ears and rabbit-goes-around-the-tree do. Of course it's not the same result at all.

rahimnathwani 9 hours ago|
From the site "The finished Ian Knot is identical to either the Standard Shoelace Knot or the Two Loop Shoelace Knot."
nikolay 10 hours ago||
That's how I've been doing it since I was a kid (in the '80s) without anyone telling me about it. It's interesting how people put their names on some common-sense stuff! Disgusting!
cubefox 9 hours ago||
I'm still hoping we could collectively agree that it's childish to view technologically superior Velcro as childish, and then replace shoelaces with Velcro.
emsign 10 hours ago||
Ian Fieggen's fast knot changed my life.
ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago||
Some previous discussion:

Secure knot 2024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42155457

General Shoelace Site

4 Months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46848231

burnt-resistor 10 hours ago||
"Double Slip Knot" (ABOK 1219 p. 221) is the canonical name with prior art. Calling it [your name] knot is pompous "discovery" of lands already occupied revisionist history. The main problem with it is that the free ends and loops cannot be balanced easily like a standard Bow Knot (ABOK 1214 p. 220). A Bow Knot may also be fixed by adding an opposing Half Knot ("The Shoeclerk's Knot" (ABOK 1215)) while losing the slip feature that the Double Slip Knot retains.
Syzygies 4 hours ago||
There's the finished knot, and there's his way of tying it, which is easy to grasp.

That strikes a chord for me. In grade school my teachers could not distinguish between these perspectives, for the standard shoelace knot. I found their method stupid, and they thought my method was wrong. This was but one of many lessons that helped me to learn to think for myself.

rahimnathwani 9 hours ago|||
From the site:

  Years later I found out that my new knot was not new and that I had simply re-invented an existing knot, which appears elsewhere under two different names:

  “Double Slip Knot” (#1219) in “The Ashley Book of Knots” by Clifford Ashley;
  “Seaman's Shoelace Knot” (or “Seemännische Schuhbandschleife”), which appears in the German book “Knoten, Spleißen, Takeln” by Erich Sondheim.
xp84 10 hours ago||
I'm pretty sure knot techniques can't be copyrighted, so nobody owns it or has the exclusive right to name it. Someone can call it the Ham Sandwich knot if they want. Who cares?

Besides, I'm pretty sure Ian has done a lot more to spread the knowledge of this particular knot than anyone else in history.

endgame 4 hours ago||
Ashley is the canonical list of knots, so it's good for people who haven't heard of ABOK to hear about it since we're talking knots today.

Probably time to drop another coin in Ian's tip jar too.

brador 8 hours ago|
Double cross tuck is still the champ. Nothing comes close to its simplicity and hardiness. Zero fidliness unlike this nonsense.
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