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Posted by coloneltcb 9 hours ago

VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare(blog.cloudflare.com)
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nja 7 hours ago|
Unpleasantly close to when Cloudflare bought BastionZero... the promises quickly fell away, the tool decayed (I found three serious bugs in one single week...and they had stopped even bothering to publish changelogs), and Cloudflare eventually gave us a "hey, we're actually shutting this down in a month, good luck" email prompting a scramble to rewire all of our infrastructure.

(Fwiw SDM ended up being a better alternative anyways... not looking forward to their eventual acquisition and shutdown :/ )

mynameisvlad 4 hours ago||
What promises? The announcement for BastionZero was quite clear as to what would happen:

> The BastionZero team will be focused on integrating their infrastructure access controls directly into Cloudflare One. During the third and fourth quarters of this year, we will be announcing a number of new features to facilitate Zero Trust infrastructure access via Cloudflare One. All functionality delivered this year will be included in the Cloudflare One free tier for organizations with less than 50 users. We believe that everyone should have access to world-class security controls.

Did you expect them to continue running their own service when it was pretty evident their work would be integrated into CF's zero trust suite?

freedomben 7 hours ago||
Thanks for the example. I'm skeptical of the claims that "nothing will change" but want to believe them, and examples are the only real data to go on (feels/vibes aren't data), so thank you.

Original blog post of the acquisition of BastionZero: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-acquires-bastionzero/

ruguo 6 hours ago||
First Bun went to Anthropic. Then Astro and now VoidZero to Cloudflare. Feels like all my favorite open-source projects are getting adopted by the giants.
dzonga 5 hours ago||
5 years too late. at most this acquisition should've happened before Cloudflare went all in on workers.
opem 4 hours ago||
I thought they're gonna build their own hosting platform eventually. Where is the fun in this :(
simultsop 2 hours ago||
This was unexpected.
tuananh 8 hours ago||
Amazing acquisition for Cloudflare.
chrisweekly 7 hours ago||
Bummer. The Vite ecosystem is fantastic, and VoidZero's tools are all world-class (vite, vitest, oxcfmt, oxclint,...), but I wish they'd remain(ed) independent.
j_w 6 hours ago||
I hate company acquisitions.

Not for the aquire-ee(?), I'm not going to be a hypocrite and claim I wouldn't take the payout if I were in that position. But that companies can build massive moats by just buying up as many other companies as possible.

I don't even feel like I can make a "good" argument for it either. Massive companies becoming more massive through acquisitions just feels wrong, like the end game won't work out well for the commons.

I assume the point here is that now Cloudflare can try and push more Vite users into their ecosystem? Nudge the development to integrate better with their products? They say they are moving towards Vite, not Vite moving towards Cloudflare, but ultimately <tool> moves in the direction <owner> decides - even if it's "developed openly."

Sammi 8 hours ago||
The question I have is: Is Vite becoming the all-in-one nodejs tool that is replacing all the other full featured js tooling favorites like Bun, Deno and pnpm?
francislavoie 7 hours ago||
Vite is not a package manager and is not a JS runtime. That's what Node/Bun/Deno do. Vite is the remaining glue for any web project's build and testing needs.
TheAlexLichter 8 hours ago|||
Just use Vite Plus (viteplus.dev)
ramon156 8 hours ago|||
Vite is unmatched
moomoo11 8 hours ago|||
vite just works
pjmlp 8 hours ago||
Nope, mostly using pnpm over here.
chrisweekly 7 hours ago||
That's orthogonal; Vite (and its ecosystem) _with_ pnpm is likely the best combination avlbl.
aatd86 9 hours ago|
That was evident. It was designed that way :) Congrats.
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