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Posted by coloneltcb 13 hours ago

VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare(blog.cloudflare.com)
https://voidzero.dev/posts/voidzero-cloudflare
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pjmlp 12 hours ago|
So now each major SPA framework belongs to a cloud provider, Vercel, Cloudflare and Google.
holografix 12 hours ago||
What’s the Google one? Flutter?
pjmlp 12 hours ago||
Angular.

Flutter hardly matters.

jshier 12 hours ago||
You say that, but Cloudflare just rewrote their WARP / Cloudflare One clients in Flutter. It really sucks, but they are using it.
pjmlp 11 hours ago||
I don't even know what that is.

Flutter is the only reason Dart still exists, and in what concerns the Android team, writing cross mobile application, is to be done with Kotlin.

Which contrary to Dart, has a few use cases, besides Android.

owebmaster 12 hours ago||
Ironically, Lit that was created by Google isn't maintained by it anymore. The project is, unfortunately, almost dead tho
pjmlp 11 hours ago|||
Most of matters has landed on Web Components anyway, and that is fully supported on Angular, contrary to React.
pier25 9 hours ago|||
yeah SSR is still marked as experimental after like 3-4 years
thrownaway561 12 hours ago||
For anyone pissing on this, you have to remember one thing... time equals money and, as someone who spent 7 years building an open source project, you make almost ZERO from doing it. At the end, if you want to continue the project, you have to sell your soul somehow, either by doing a paid tier, consulting or getting corporate sponsorship. Unless you are one of the VERY lucky ones that does the coding on the side while having a full time job (which I was in the VERY fortunate position to be in at the time).

It's going to come down to "can I afford to keep doing this for nothing"?

So for all you high and mighty people calling them sell outs and what not, I would love to see how much you've been contributing to the project in order for it to keep going.

I think what CloudFlare is doing is a good thing. They get a tremendous team that they can have help work on their infrastructure while keeping the open source projects alive.

desireco42 5 hours ago||
I for one love this. Cloudflare is doing really excellent job last few years and of all the companies, this acquisition will not hurt developers like those other might or already do.
rvz 13 hours ago||
This is what happens when developers do not pay for their tools. Companies instead take full control over it and the team then loses their independence.

Just like Bun, Astral and Astro, did VoidZero ever make any money?

If not then this is why open source alone is unsustainable, especially in the age of AI.

pier25 13 hours ago||
afaik Void Cloud never went GA
epolanski 13 hours ago|||
Why not setup proper no profit foundations instead of VC-funded for profits then?

I think major projects that are core to the infrastructure should get financing and donations from the major tech companies benefitting.

I'm not saying my solution would work, maybe I'm being naive and unaware of the realities of most of these projects.

bakugo 13 hours ago||
This would happen even if developers were paying, because a 100 billion dollar corporation like Cloudflare can always pay more.

It has nothing to do with sustainability and everything to do with cashing out a huge payday, which seems to be the end goal of everything nowadays.

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