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Posted by poisonfountain 21 hours ago

LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do(human-in-the-loop.bearblog.dev)
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a4hast 18 hours ago|
Advertisement piece for the IPOs. We get this multiple times daily to pump the stocks and demoralize programmers.
dwa3592 17 hours ago||
I don't know how else to say this but LLMs are just word calculators. They are becoming better for sure but at this point even Claude 4.8 is absolute shit at any complex task in a not so common field. I have been working on terrain contour matching algorithms for the last few days and, oh boy are the predictions about AI taking over the world wrong. Its the highest level of bullshit I have ever come across in my life. I ended up writing 100% of the actual algorithm myself. It's a productivity mess.
ThrowawayR2 15 hours ago|
> "terrain contour matching algorithms"

That's an extremely niche specialty though. 99% of software development jobs are web frontend/backend or mobile/desktop apps and they are more at risk from LLMs.

dwa3592 15 hours ago||
It's only good at churning out reliable boilerplate. If you want a genuinely good frontend - human creativity still beats AI any day today. Sure it's helpful but I think frontend devs will land just fine on their feet. At least, I hope.
monegator 17 hours ago||
Hear me out: what about just refusing to use them?

why would i ever want to use a tool that remove the part of my job that brings me joy? Fuck productivity, we were already doing good, when we were able to actually do our job, i.e.: not wasting hours in useless meetings, or doing customer care to idiots who could not be bothered to follow instructions, which i shouldn't be doing in the first place. let the LLM do that, or let the human assisted by the LLM do that. Not my job.

dragontamer 16 hours ago|
My boss came up to me and said a coworker using LLM tools has shipped more customer solutions in a week than basically what I've done in 3 months.

The bosses are out to force people like you to use AI. And have been for months.

Maybe not your boss yet, but it swept through my office dramatically. Maybe two or three months from limited tests to now today FORCED usage of AI (people going around the office asking constantly if there's any AI that can help today).

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This has a few toxic effects.

1. You are not allowed to complain about code quality issues anymore. Any complaints are met with okay, we will get the AI to fix it.

No discussion, no elaboration. No one in the office is even interested anymore. AI solves everything.

2. You are basically in a position where you are forced to use AI, whether you want it or not.

3. I expect code quality at my office to drop dramatically as fewer and fewer office mates give a shit

5701652400 19 hours ago||
don't worry, soon there will be no "software engineering" careers anymore.
Kuyawa 19 hours ago||
Shoemakers and horseback messengers complaining while Nike and FedEx deliver a million shoes or packages per day

We won't miss them

dalton_zk 17 hours ago||
The title should be: LLMs are changing my software engineering career and I know what I should do
yurish 19 hours ago||
So blog with single post hyping LLMs. Oh and the domain name "human-in-the-loop". Call me suspicious.
throwatdem12311 19 hours ago||
My job as a staff engineer has turned into just reviewing slop farm vomit from offshore devs in Pakistan making pennies on the dollar given a slop code subscription and going wild.

I’ve lately just turned to having Claude do a quick /review, spot checking it, doing my own review and the. firing up some web agents to make the needed changes and just ignoring the back and forth because they don’t give a fuck anyway.

Just waiting for someone to notice and ask the obvious question at this point.

rootusrootus 19 hours ago|
I will be happy if Claude lets me eliminate my offshore Genpact team. I don’t need slop from slop.
throwatdem12311 17 hours ago||
I’m the one that needs to support it in production and fix the bugs anyway. Offshore is pointless.
photochemsyn 20 hours ago||
If corporations really thought LLMs were a great cost-savings tool, then the obvious target for replacement are not the lower-paid staff, but the higher-paid staff - the ‘product managers and stakeholders’. That justifies token burn, replacing the 7- and 8-figure people, right?

But that’s not the real goal, is it? The goal is to inflate the stock value, take the cream off the top, and dump the whole business on the pension funds, maybe creating a too-big-to-fail scenario where the government steps in an bails out the industry as with the airlines during Covid.

This is why all the testimonials and narratives are so suspect - nobody knows what fraction of online posts were created simply to sell the narrative that LLMs are this incredible disruptive tool that will change the world, solely in order to create FOMO in the investor class.

In this particular case, I’d like to see links to samples of LLM created codebases for “PCI compliance, double-entry ledgers, escrows, reconciliation, payment lifecycles, bank transfer idempotency”. It should be easy to put an open-source LLM-generated version up on github, right? And if not, why not?

dfffsdfdsfds 18 hours ago||
The idea is to start with the largest, easiest lever. The one which will accelerate all _other_ automation. That lever is software development itself.

Say you are Anthropic and want to shake up the world of law or medicine or whatever. What will you need? Product managers? You need tooling, software, infrastructure and a lot of it and quickly and you need to iterate really F fast on it as well.

If you automate the development of software itself you will enter a new era in which automation of All The Things becomes an engineering problem instead of a pipe dream. Besides software engineering there is (AI) research/science and robotics. That is the holy trinity. Crack that and it's over.

BTW: "double-entry ledgers, escrows, reconciliation, payment lifecycles, bank transfer idempotency", these all sound like solved problems and also things that are festering with accidental instead of essential complexity. I won't bet my career on those things. Now if you say something like physics or geology, that's a tougher nut to crack.

goingbananas 17 hours ago||
I agree, we are still waiting to see the billion dollar valuation startup that fully vibe-coded their product
dyauspitr 11 hours ago|
We are finally getting past the denial phase
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