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Posted by igmn 20 hours ago

Dopamine Fracking(igerman.cc)
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protocolture 19 hours ago|
"movies becoming too Marvel"

I dunno, I love hating modern thing as much as the next guy, but this is just people being hyper sensitive. Your average 80s action comedy quips the same as any Marvel film.

sandcat_ 18 hours ago|
I think the criticism isn’t around Marvel films being Marvel, but rather the reaction to Marvel films being popular to make every film like a Marvel film. Can’t really comment if that’s true, though I’ve definitely noticed an increase in films becoming franchises, etc, but I think that was the implication.
protocolture 17 hours ago||
I see "It was just a marvel\disney film" as a substitute for thoughtful criticism on basically every film these days. Usually they say they hate the humour. Even though if anything theres more humourless films these days than ever before.
Aurornis 18 hours ago||
This article has an odd juxtaposition between the complaints about apps and commodified content, and the author’s affinity for the very same content.

Right after complaining about the reductive concentration of content, outrage, and popular opinions for mass consumption, they link to a YouTube creator and advise us to go watch the videos. The topic is a reductive description of drug use that blames the bad part on evil capitalists, which is a popular opinion but hardly consistent with history.

They mention deleting apps that lead them to dopamine hits and trigger their outrage, but throughout the article they come back to Discord at where their anger at dopamine fracking was fomented.

I feel like I see this a lot lately where someone is partially aware of their own problems with self-regulation of content and app consumption, but they have a big blind spot for their biggest attention sinks. The common example is the person who proudly tells me they’re “not on social media” because they uninstalled Instagram but they spend 8 hours a day between Discord, Reddit, and gaming with some friends.

aboardRat4 17 hours ago||
>actual fracking, ... is immensely harmful to the long-term health and sustainability of anything it is applied to

This is wrong, obviously.

No ecosystem exists at the depths where fracking is applied.

>Maybe. But it's not a strawberry anymore.

But it allows poor people to actually have some taste of strawberry in their morning meal every day, and not once per year.

forlorn_mammoth 7 hours ago|
apparently you enjoy drinking from permanently poisoned aquifiers.
MitPitt 19 hours ago||
Humanity was fracking dopamine from art by first painting on cave walls, then oil on canvas, and eventually we got cinematography and video games. Author sounds like a luddite. Feel free to paint on cave walls. Nothing's happening to real strawberries either.
lelanthran 17 hours ago||
> Humanity was fracking dopamine from art by first painting on cave walls, then oil on canvas, and eventually we got cinematography and video games.

I don't think you know what "fracking" means. It's a high-pressure, high-resource extraction method that produces high volume initially but quickly falls off, requiring a new source.

Laboriously painting a picture to get a dopamine hit is not the same as swiping up while doomscrolling.

profsummergig 18 hours ago|||
Also, I'd guess that more strawberries are grown today than ever before. After their artificial essence was created in the labs.

I enjoyed the article. It was very evocative.

Waterluvian 18 hours ago||
“Grog are you in there dopamine fracking again?”

“It’s not what it looks like! Gawd, just leave me alone mom!”

thinkthatover 8 hours ago||
just because everyone seems to keep asking this on different threads - hacker news is definitely social media, with a few extra steps. Its where i come to get my dopamine hit at least
pknerd 12 hours ago||
Ironically, many such companies and their products are proudly featured and funded by the company that maintains HackerNews
joegaebel 17 hours ago||
May be more clear to refer to it as Foam Banana Candy syndrome
badmonkey0001 9 hours ago|
I was thinking of bananas and banana flavoring too. It may have been a better example than strawberries, but most people don't know how much variety bananas have because they've been so commoditized. It's too good of an example because the effect is complete.

https://10best.usatoday.com/food-drink/bananas-arent-good-as...

tancop 12 hours ago||
its just like normal drugs, alcohol, weed cocaine and everything. dopamine, quick release, addiction, none of that is harmful by itself. some of them just have danegrous side effects when you OD so you need to watch out if you decide to take them.

i know im a dopamine addict. i watch reels, play fortnite and only go out when i have someone to talk with. just walking by myself is too calm even with music. i cant sit on the bus for 5 minutes without turning on clash royale. i dont read books or watch long form movies because its not stimulating enough. i need something new every minute or i get bored. the only time i can focus something for a long time is when i feel like i really need to get it finished, like writing this comment.

but i still got a social life, go to college and work. and i think 90 percent of the people you call sick are just like that, normal functioning people. theres nothing wrong with doing what feels good.

thewoodsman 9 hours ago|
> theres nothing wrong with doing what feels good.

except that, according to your own experience, it eventually leads to you becoming unable to engage with anything that isn't an instant dopamine hit whose entire arc occurs in a few minutes. you just used writing a 3 paragraph comment as an example of an activity that required long term focus.

and to be clear, i have a lot of the same problems, so i'm not trying to come off overly judgmental here. but i view it as a personal problem that I struggle to finish a book these days, or to invest sustained attention in a challenging side project or even, at times, a fucking video game. (i've caught myself scrolling youtube shorts in my chair at my pc, procrastinating playing a video game of all things).

what you describe (and again, what I also experience, maybe to a slightly lesser extent) doesn't seem conducive to a happy and fulfilling life - or at least it seems fair to guess that a life without the dopamine addiction you're diagnosis could be happier and more fulfilling.

NonHyloMorph 12 hours ago||
Neat conceptualisation and neat graphical design of the blog. Keep up the good work!
johnathandos 18 hours ago|
"All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."
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