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Posted by yu3zhou4 11 hours ago

The Cypherpunk Library(www.cypherpunkbooks.com)
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my_throwaway23 8 hours ago|
Side note: I love literature, but I can not for the life of me understand how anyone can consider non-fiction enjoyable to read. Informative, perhaps interesting, yes, but enjoyable? Heck no. Take me as far away from reality as possible.

Though, of course, to each their own.

chimpanzee2 7 hours ago||
Interesting– Conversely, that is exactly how I feel about reading fiction.

To me, how can you possibly enjoy reading something some other person simply ... made up? Like an elaborate lie?

Contrarily, non-fiction tells it how it happened within the very reality I myself live in, subject to the same laws of nature and real psychology, and therefore, and only therefore, able to teach me something about real life on this earth.

dfansteel 6 hours ago|||
Both are valuable and present in a well rounded life. The Diary of Anne Frank and Those Who Leave Omelas cause you to question life in different ways.
my_throwaway23 7 hours ago||||
Perhaps unrelated, but that reminds me of the inevitable avalanche of identical replies to every submission on aphantasia, all proclaiming that, no, they do indeed find it odd that there are people who can visualise internally.

Do you enjoy watching movies or series, reading comics? Going to the theatre (as in - not movies, but actual theatre)?

Edit: Do note that I wrote enjoy - I've certainly read my fair share of non-fiction. A classic Agatha Christy murder-mystery, while set in the real world, is anything but realistic.

chimpanzee2 6 hours ago||
> Do you enjoy watching movies or series, reading comics? Going to the theatre (as in - not movies, but actual theatre)?

I really for the most part do not. I've not even seen any of the big oscar winning pieces everyone keeps talking about.

As I said to another commentator on here as well:

Without any disdain, I cannot bring myself to watch hours of another person's fantasy, when I could instead be shaping my own reality.

exhumet 6 hours ago|||
but often the fantasy does help shape your reality and identity. an author finding a way to vocalize and make a concept or feeling tangible like its coming out of the mouth of someone that you can respect or despise with such strong emotion is extremely powerful. and sure you can get that from nonfiction (which i also do love some of the driest science texts lol) but there is something amazing about seeing how something could play out, or how it would be to experience this reality. maybe you just havent found what clicks for you yet or what perfectly speaks to you and maybe you never will, but its not worth writing it ALL off. for me at least it's the emotional resonance you can find with fiction that makes it all the more worth it. Do i agree with Char Aznable no, do i agree with Amuro Ray? yes. do i find merit and incompatibilities in both of their ideologies? yes. has it helped me see the kind of world that the creator wishes to envision and wants to make us question for ourselves? yes. its the connection. i just love it.

and dont write off comics either, there is some genuine phenomenally emotional works in that medium.

DonHopkins 1 hour ago|||
As long as you're so good at shaping reality, could you please do something about the fascist takeover of the US government?
nilamo 7 hours ago||||
I have no understanding of your viewpoint. I wish I did, it sounds interesting. I do like a Crafting Interpreters or Mythical Man Month...

But I don't understand how those could not only be held to the same level as The Hobbit, but that you seem incapable of even reading Animal Farm.

Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

chimpanzee2 7 hours ago||
> Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

Nope, I truly live under a rock when it comes to those.

I've been wanting to watch the big ones (Hobbit, LotR, ...), but – and I say this with no disdain:

I simply cannot get myself to consume hours upon hours of somebody else's fantasy – when I could instead be shaping my own reality.

alchemism 5 hours ago|||
"All the world's a stage,And all the men and women merely players;They have their exits and their entrances,And one man in his time plays many parts,His acts being seven ages."

— William Shakespeare, Fantasy Author

bazoom42 6 hours ago||||
This is fascinating. Do you enjoy music?
DonHopkins 1 hour ago||||
By "shaping my own reality" do you mean taking hallucinogenic drugs?
anthk 5 hours ago|||
How about short jokes, or Unix fortune files?
zorked 7 hours ago||||

  "non-fiction tells it how it happened"
oh sweet summer child :)
anthk 5 hours ago|||
>Contrarily, non-fiction tells it how it happened within the very reality I myself live in, subject to the same laws of nature and real psychology, and therefore, and only therefore, able to teach me something about real life on this earth.

This is me trying to pick up most bullshit written from humanities or arts; a 99% of it it's carefully crafted nonsense for ahem mainly emotionaly driven women and artsy people with very subjective opinions instead of accepting the reality as is.

Elaborated jokes OTOH can be trully clever and a good source of laughs and fun.

Also, Discworld from Pratchett, as they have obvious magical analogies to real life devices and scientific procedures.

glitchc 4 hours ago|||
You have to read better non-fiction then. Take history for example. Certain real events are more fascinating than any fictional story, and the right author can take you on an unforgettable journey, unfolding the world as it developed.
spidey1 2 hours ago||
do you have any recommendations?
bushwart 1 hour ago||
In Stahlgewittern by Ernst Jünger, there should be an English translation.
lkm0 6 hours ago|||
If you can read French, I recommend Saint-Simon as the quintessential counter-example. In English, I found "Why I Write" by Orwell very entertaining.
speed_spread 7 hours ago|||
You have to make your own stories as you go along. Plug that fresh knowledge into hypothetical scenarios from stuff you've learned before.
contingencies 7 hours ago|||
If you don't enjoy learning you may be in a minority here.
my_throwaway23 7 hours ago|||
It sounds almost as if you're saying learning is only possible by reading, which, I would argue, most of the history of humanity proves false.
tommica 7 hours ago|||
Stupid take, one can learn from fiction too.
my_throwaway23 7 hours ago||
And not everything's about learning. You are allowed to do things strictly because you enjoy doing them, with no ulterior motive.
my_throwaway24 7 hours ago||
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some_furry 6 hours ago|||
Making a throwaway account to "just ask a question" is a weird thing to do.
my_throwaway24 3 hours ago||
Yea. Internet does that to people
my_throwaway23 7 hours ago|||
What difference does it make?
my_throwaway24 7 hours ago||
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pajamasam 4 hours ago||
And a single person's answer to a statistical phenomenon is going to help you how?
my_throwaway24 3 hours ago||
It won't help me in anyway.

Did your reply to my throwaway help you in any way?

Srsly didn't expect people to overreact like this. It wasn't that deep everyone, Jesus!

ramon156 9 hours ago||
the hover animation on the books in `/` slows down my Firefox

Cool project nonetheless! Enjoyed browsing through the options

esher 5 hours ago||
Nitpicking on style: hover animation on the books could not be capped by the container size and just overflow the content. Great case for page transition. Move the 3d book into the space where it will be located with single view.

Firefox user here too.

sen 8 hours ago||
If a site like this isn’t using your browser to mine bitcoin I’d be incredibly disappointed.
juleiie 9 hours ago||
Everything on the Internet is public domain, up for grabs

In the past you could argue about legal stuff but now the LLM training companies have proven that beyond all doubt, it is not only possible but even legal to use any Internet material as you see fit.

sdellis 6 hours ago|
I really hope this is sarcasm.
juleiie 5 hours ago||
Why would that be sarcasm on a site that calls itself “hacker”news?

We aren’t exactly law abiding citizens, more anarchists really.

That comes with certain mindset about the copyright. I can’t remember the last day I didn’t violate some kind of law of a corporate state. It’s spiritual almost, highlight of the day.

You can be sure that whatever you posted online that had any value, have already been on my hard drive two times over. Sometimes even modified and passed along.

What are you going to do about it?

vitalyan1234 2 hours ago|||
> a site that calls itself “hacker”news?

H in HN = D in DPRK

ur-whale 4 hours ago|||
> Why would that be sarcasm on a site that calls itself “hacker”news?

Let me beat that dead horse once more for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_culture

juleiie 4 hours ago||
Someone certainly wants you to think that way. Keep slurping it up
unprovable 10 hours ago||
Nice - can't wait to see how it grows!
proxysna 10 hours ago||
Looks really nice, but 10 fps in Firefox.
yreg 8 hours ago|
Buttery smooth for me in Firefox (mac)
ur-whale 4 hours ago||
Nice to see Tim May writings on HN
agentbraker 6 hours ago||
Great work! Open access to knowledge is always a win.
sorenlokholm 7 hours ago||
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tug2024 5 hours ago|
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