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Posted by dredmorbius 2 hours ago

I replaced Spotify with a homemade FM radio station(old.reddit.com)
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tombert 47 minutes ago|
I did something similar about a year ago, when I was unemployed.

I made an Icecast-compatible streaming server in Erlang, and an Icecast-compatible stream in Rust. Between songs, I would phone out to the cheapest GPT model and a local TTS model to get unfunny DJ banter, with an infinite stream.

I thought it would be very funny to call it "KUMM -- Playing all stickiest white-hot hits!" because I have the maturity level of a fourteen year old, only to find out that there actually is a KUMM station [1] in real life.

All the songs were from CD rips from my very large collection, and it was pretty fun to write. It was my primary music solution until I eventually got a job, it broke, and I didn't prioritize fixing it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KUMM

solomonb 57 seconds ago||
You could take it to the next level and build a part 15 compliant FM transmitter kit.
dredmorbius 38 minutes ago||
What I really like about this concept is that it runs a mix of podcasts, news updates, and music, which is something I've been considering for a while. Playing the same mix over a number of tuned-in sets throughout a house or establishment could also work nicely.

TFA uses bluetooth, which may incur different lags on different playback devices. Another option several people have already mentioned is low-power local-only FM (or apparently AM) transmitters. These are sometimes used for in-car playback without Bluetooth from a device (phone, tablet, laptop) over a non-Bluetooth sound system, and could work within a small house. Bands and transmission power are specifically licenced for this in some locations, though of course local regs will vary.

I particularly like the idea of curating my own set of podcasts to play as I want to schedule them, adding in top-of-the-hour news (BBC, CBC, NPR, Deutschlandfunk), or a daily news programme (BBC World, PBS News Hour, The World out of WBUR/Boston), with music filling in between slots either streamed or selected from a (very large, physical media-backed) collection.

Another thought, for a commercial venue which would otherwise be subject to, e.g., ASCAP / Harry Fox performance rights organisation licencing (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_rights_organisatio...>), would be to use only public-domain / freely-licenced works.

Also very much appreciating others' similar takes on this.

(Submitter, FWIW.)

EvanAnderson 2 hours ago||
Did something like this for janky whole-venue music at my wedding reception back in '07. We had a low power FM transmitter connected to a laptop playing the music. We borrowed a bunch of old "boom boxes" with FM radios from friends, tuned them to our "station", and arrayed them throughout the event space. We kept the volume fairly low on each radio so we didn't have to worry about echoes.
jklinger410 2 hours ago||
Shilling for an old employer. This is a neat super simple device that takes incoming headphone and converts to FM.

Whole House FM Transmitter (https://wholehousefmtransmitter.com/)

EvanAnderson 1 hour ago|
It's a little pricey for the hobbyist but for "normies" it looks really good. Neat product idea.
pmontra 1 hour ago||
That solves the problem of keeping all the speakers in sync.

I did something similar with IP tech. I put all my MP3s on a SSD connected to a 3 W ARM SoC at home. The software stack is deefuzzer + icecast + a number of different players according to the device I'm using. A web UI to skip to the next song or to search a string and create a playlist with the result. I setup a few channels by genre. I'm listening to my radio right now. The advantage compared to a FM station is that I don't have to care about interference (I would be the bad guy) and I can listen to it wherever I am.

Zigurd 27 minutes ago||
As an avid user of a handful of Chromecast audio devices, I endorse this solution. I also advocate adding "swearing at your Chromecast devices" to the definition of the word "castigate."
kanbankaren 2 hours ago||
You don't even need a Raspberry PI.

You can simplify it even further. List of things you need.

1. Smartphone or DAP.

2. Car Bluetooth FM Transmitter (~$20)

3. USB to 12 V car adapter(~$10)

4. Existing FM radio.

You can set this up in 5 minutes. Connect the smartphone/DAP using BT or AUX cable. Select a free FM channel and you are ready to go.

Also, in the photos, the FM antenna is fully extended which is unnecessary as these FM transmitters put out plenty of RF power.

P.S. On AliExpress, you can buy both for < $15 while on Amazon it is around $30.

P.P.S. Just the USB FM transmitter is only $5 on AE. For the cost of a cup of Coffee!

Projectiboga 57 minutes ago||
This isn't an item to cheap out on. Find one with aptX HD support and decent reviews if you have any room in your budget. I use the bluetooth to FM all the time. I have a pair, one in my car and another in my travel kit for rental cars. The key is to find one with aptX HD and other newer hi-fi codecs as there are older chips still being sold with lower specs as BT has been a thing for awhile now. I just did a search are there are ones that are usb powered or wall powered. Another better method might be a real FCC certified FM transmitter that are marketed for Drive Ins and "church parking lots" and use a bluetooth receiver or a usb-dac as the input.
kanbankaren 39 minutes ago||
You drank the aptX kool aid and forgot the fidelity loss along the signal path.

FM broadcasts do a high pass at 50 Hz and stop at 15 kHz. The best SNR is only ~50 dB which is already achieved by plain old SBC. There is no need for higher fidelity audio codecs like AAC/aptX/aptX HD/LDAC besides the fact that most smartphones don't support aptX or aptX HD.

qsera 2 hours ago||
Yea, I did this using a raps-pi as well. Rasp-pi is nice in the sense that it can run a web server to select/enqueue/blacklist/ and what not. I can also ssh to it to download songs and automatically add to the playlist...

Along with the ability to blacklist and add new songs, I hope that I will eventually end up with a huge collection of only the best songs (for my taste)

dredmorbius 2 hours ago||
For those looking for technical details, Github, "Pi FM Kitchen Radio Station" <https://github.com/trwmato/pi-fm-kitchen-radio>.

NB: Not my project, but it tickles an interest.

sandreas 2 hours ago|
Here in Germany you have to be careful when setting up a homemade radio signal - it might be illegal depending on frequency and transmit power.

I personally prefer a combination of

  duckdns.org
  Beets
  Navidrome
  Audiobookshelf
  Substreamer / DSub 
  PaulWoitaschek/Voice / Audiobookshelf
  Wireguard
You can even make a script do download smart playlists to usb-sticks for kitchen radios without wifi or old car USB.
avian 1 hour ago||
> Here in Germany you have to be careful when setting up a homemade radio signal - it might be illegal depending on frequency and transmit power.

In Germany and everywhere else. The difference is how much it's enforced.

Note that this project isn't using that horrible Raspberry Pi GPIO PWM hack that shits all over RF but an off-the-shelf low power car FM transmitter product. I guess if someone knocks on your door you can point your finger to whoever in Germany sold you that.

calmbonsai 49 minutes ago||
At least in the U.S., it's a complete non-issue for an output power that can easily cover the size of a wedding reception as long as you're not using a wide-band transceiver.

You'll want to be "kind" to the extant spectrum and do a responsible frequency sweep to select the "quietest band" prior to broadcasting. And you'll only want to broadcast during the event itself.

The FCC has better things to do than to try and track down an ephemeral milliwatt infringer.

joxdosba 44 minutes ago||
It’s a complete non-issue in all western countries unless you’re going out of your way to cause trouble.
spogbiper 1 hour ago||
there are similar concerns in the US but you can legally send a signal a couple hundred feet in most cases
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