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Posted by piskov 6 days ago

Let's Encrypt bans certificate usage in any US sanctioned territory [pdf](letsencrypt.org)
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mollydzy 5 days ago|
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mollydzy 5 days ago||
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ezbie 5 days ago||
What in the actual fuck?
OutOfHere 5 days ago||
I had the parent organization of LetsEncrypt (Internet Security Research Group) in my Will, but after reading this, I will remove it immediately. US sanctions harm too many innocent people.
Towaway69 6 days ago||
Sanctioned has a double meaning here[1]:

> 2. officially or formally ratified or confirmed.

> 3. penalized, especially by way of discipline or to force compliance with legal obligations.

So who can use lets encrypt? Those that are penalised or those that are confirmed.

[1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sanctioned

thephyber 6 days ago||
If you click the link…

> [You certify to LetsEncrypt that] …

> You are not a person or entity that is: (a) located in, organized under the laws of, or ordinarily resident in any country or territory that is the target of comprehensive U.S. sanctions; (b) a prohibited or restricted party under U.S. or other applicable sanctions and export control laws and regulations; or (c) owned or controlled by or acting on behalf of anyone described in (a) or (b). You agree to use Let’s Encrypt Certificates and any services provided by or on behalf of ISRG in compliance with applicable U.S. export control and sanctions laws and regulations.

gossamer 5 days ago||
It took me a minute to understand the original post because the verb sanction means both itself and basically the opposite of itself. It would be better to say "any territory that the US has levied sanctions against". I thought LetsEncrypt had banned its usage in the US! The word for words like sanction is contronym.
cynicalsecurity 5 days ago|
This actually makes sense. No freedom for the enemies of freedom.
hinata08 5 days ago||
the list of ppl under US sanctions is staggering

Europe starts to shield itself from the risk since Nicolas Guillou, the French ICC judge who issued a warrant against bibi got sanctioned (France officially protested about this case)

China is being successful at blocking US firms out of their supply chains (they already use Linux on Loongarch processors with some homemade architecture and pioneer RISC V), since a bunch of their companies also got sanctions for supplying the governement

US stands so much for freedom that it's the first country to refuse immigration to FIFA world cup teams and athletes, with Iranians not allowed to stay between games and Somali goalkeeper being turned away at the border. Germany itself didn't do for the 1936 Olympics.

So at best, they're only shooting themselves in the foot by showing any US component in a supply chain is a risk, while using US clouds were already a risk of loss of revenue from FISA requests to undercut your bid and rot your company and using US dollars for trade was already a liability

In the meantime, US companies can do anything, break any financial law and abuse every human right, they'll just sign DPAs to avoid prosecution

mswphd 5 days ago|||
love thought-terminating cliches. really helps keep from actually thinking ever.
cynicalsecurity 5 days ago||
Your comment reads like a thought-terminating cliché. If Russia occupied your city, killed your family and friends and left you homeless, you might reconsider giving freedom to those who take it away from others. Unfortunately, sanctions are often very easy to evade.
Shish2k 5 days ago|||
This is a reasonable point, if "enemies of freedom" and "enemies of America" are synonymous...
contagiousflow 5 days ago||||
Now imagine the USA did that to the city you live in...
hinata08 5 days ago||
it can't happen, they only attack civilians in countries that have weapons of mass destruction or have a evil economic system of socialized healthcare and labor market

They also don't like states that threaten business by turning workers into a commodity that you have to compensate each month ; Spain sunk the Maine ; and they had manifest destiny given from God to get rid of natives

queenkjuul 5 days ago||||
Ah right, that's why there's US sanctions on Israel?
greyface- 5 days ago|||
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CrzyLngPwd 5 days ago|||
But what if you're the baddies?
bigfishrunning 5 days ago||
Then try not to be completely dependent on the products of a company that is under the control of your enemy.
cindyllm 5 days ago||
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