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Posted by swolpers 4 days ago

The iPhone's Last Stand?(stratechery.com)
190 points | 228 commentspage 3
MyelinatedT 3 days ago|
This Microsoft notion of “devices that don’t stand alone but surround you” sounds an awful lot like Google’s “ambient computing” of yonder.
sleepybrett 3 days ago||
Ambient computing goes back far further than that... and we are getting there. I have digital control over most of the lighting in my apartment as well as several other items through various iot adapters (button pushers, stepper motors attached to my blinds, power outlet relays). Audio reactive agents like alexa/bedpodsiri/whateverrunsheygoogle can put you in control of all of that. Nothing is stopping anyone from building a audio reactive agent that dumps input into their AI model or models of their choice if they want it.

With the right set-top-box, you tvs become just another display for whatever you want to send their way. We are extremely close to startrek tng style spaces. I'm sure there is a github repo out there that may even be there.

Why do you think apple has the appletv, the apple watch, the phone itself is essentially a pocketwatch with an addressable display.

I think we have all the parts it's just now about knitting them all together and building up a ux that works for normal people.

Thrymr 3 days ago||
"The network is the computer." - Sun Microsystems, 1984
spogbiper 3 days ago||
"Everything's computer" - Trump, 2025
gohome190 4 days ago||
> Apple is targeting consumers, for whom traditional chatbot functionality is probably sufficient for the vast majority of their AI needs.

I disagree strongly here. The chatbot is the furthest thing from sufficient for the average consumer. Take the newly announced feature that groups your compromised passwords together and offers to agentically change them all for you. Really cool! Could you do that via a chatbot interface? Sure. Would the average consumer? No.

move-on-by 3 days ago|
I doubt the ‘average consumer’ is even using a password manager, let alone going to change their password because of something so common place as it being compromised.
thenthenthen 3 days ago||
On step into the markets in Shenzhen and you will know it is not over. That new foldy iphone is a bit dodgy tho..
catlikesshrimp 3 days ago||
I stopped reading when he mentioned "..beyond the fact that billions.." I looked it up and iphone users are much less than two billions. I can't expect much axcuracy from this opinion.
kens 3 days ago|
I noticed the same thing. "The fact that billions of consumers already have iPhones" is a hallucination, not a fact. Billions of consumers have Android phones, but that's not the case for iPhones. (Billions of iPhones have been sold, though.)
eschatology 4 days ago||
title is too biased and sensational

first paragraph begins the article upon 2 very big and flawed statements:

> Apple fans would, for years and years, sneer at Microsoft’s penchant for talking about products that may or may not ship, deriding them as vaporware.

maybe some would, but as a whole I would say this is not a common thing

> After Apple’s bungled 2024 launch of Apple Intelligence and new Siri, however, vaporware is fair game

no it's not

I didn't know about Project Solara so learned a new thing from the article, but I got the impression that it's not as big as the author tried to make it seem, felt very distant and forced.

drcongo 4 days ago|
It only gets worse from there.
qmr 3 days ago||
> The concept — which isn’t entirely clear from that video, but was more fully explained on stage — is that in the future you will be surrounded by an ecosystem of devices, none of which stand alone, but are more like portals to interact with your agents, which live in the cloud.

The fuck I will.

There is no cloud, only other people's hard drives.

-- your increasingly crusty and curmudgeonly old Unix admin who is not paranoid because they are out to get you

ahartmetz 2 days ago||
> in the future you will be surrounded by an ecosystem of devices, none of which stand alone, but are more like portals to interact with your agents, which live in the cloud

Ewww, that's fucking gross. Please don't say such things when I'm about to eat.

paradox242 3 days ago||
I just know I'm going to end up having to pay more for a phone that doesn't have all this AI bullshit on it.
ramon156 4 days ago|
Wait what, is this a Microsoft ad in disguise?
swiftcoder 3 days ago|
Weirdly, despite the headline and how the article starts off, it’s pretty pro-Apple by the last paragraph?
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