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Posted by doener 5 hours ago

Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future(nextcloud.com)
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artgship 4 hours ago|
Been using Nextcloud exclusively for probably 4 years now? Before that it was a mix of nextcloud + Google Drive. It works for me really well, I can grab my files through my vpn with any of my computers when I am not at home.
tapoxi 4 hours ago||
If I want to buy a small NAS that just runs Nextcloud and has a copy of my Google Photos library - what do I go with?

I don't have a ton of space so something that fits in the media center.

jmathai 3 hours ago||
If you’re going to run your own NAS then consider swapping Google Photos out with Immich.

I know it’s not the question you asked but I feel not enough people know about it as an option and it’s really as good as Google Photos.

bayindirh 3 hours ago|||
GMKTec G9. Four NVMe slots, plus some internal memory to deploy TrueNAS. It only has 12GB of RAM, but has two ethernet cards, acceptable cooling and performance and has a small footprint.

SSDs shall be single sided and gonna need heatsinks, but I believe it works well and is not tied to any manufacturer for anything.

If you want go all-out get ASUSTOR's Ryzen based systems. You can use the stock firmware or disable it without wiping it and deploy TrueNAS on it. It's a beast.

TrueNAS has containers and applications and VM support so you can run any service you want on it.

shadowpho 2 hours ago||
I have a g9 and cooling is fine, but not great. I ended up opening it up and placing heatsinks on hot chips
bayindirh 34 minutes ago||
That's true. I had to raise mine on two small cardboard boxes to allow SSDs to breathe. Also mine is not under very high load.
TiredOfLife 3 hours ago||
Google photos will become one way sync only in august. You can upload to cloud, but no sync to pc.
jacobgkau 2 hours ago||
> Your apps are now available via focused waffle menu for centralized access to all your apps. It reduces distraction and uses the interface space efficiently as your your library grows.

"your your" typo aside, I remember when Nextcloud moved from a drop-down menu for the apps to listing them all out separately on the header bar, to make them more visible and reduce the clicks to switch apps. I guess they've changed their minds again; I look forward to when they change them back.

beepbooptheory 5 hours ago||
Maybe I'm alone but nextcloud has gone from being kinda flaky and annoying to really great the past few years.
technothrasher 4 hours ago||
I don't think I really push it, but I find it just right for self-hosting my calendar, contacts, photos, and files.
wolttam 4 hours ago|||
I'd agree that it has gotten better over time. I'm glad we have Nextcloud around.
theodric 4 hours ago||
I always had terrible trouble keeping it (and before it, Owncloud) updated and in sync with available dependencies on my Debian host. A few years ago, when I built a new NAS, I installed a snap, and that's been the ticket. It's pretty close to flawless now.
bigstrat2003 4 hours ago|||
I'm not a huge "run everything in a container" guy, but Nextcloud is one of those things I absolutely will always run in a container. It's too much of a beast for me to have any desire to try to manage package versions and fixing it if something breaks.
encom 4 hours ago||||
When I ran OwnCloud (on Debian), I installed from their APT repo, and one "apt upgrade" handled everything. It was nice and easy, and I didn't have any problems with it.

NextCloud uses its own updater* (which I don't like), and aside from some recent MariaDB snafu it's been very low maintenance.

  (*)sudo -u www-data php /var/www/nextcloud/updater/updater.phar
lvales 4 hours ago|||
Yeah, I eventually gave up on self hosting Nextcloud because of incompatibilities with PHP(-FPM), iirc. They were always lagging behind and it became a hassle to mantain. I ended up replacing all the parts I used with other single purpose software, and it's been a better experience overall.
krs_ 3 hours ago||
Arch Linux added php-legacy and php-fpm-legacy, which tracks (I think) the oldest supported PHP release, a couple of years ago. After I switched to that it's been pretty smooth sailing.
geff82 3 hours ago||
How is OpenCloud a serious competitor?
jaffa2 5 hours ago||
Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?
__jonas 2 hours ago||
The breakdown as I understand is as follows:

- Owncloud: The 'original' platform, written in php, still developed today

- Nextcloud: A fork of Owncloud (php) by some of the people that worked on it, including the project founder over directional differences, now more widely used than the original Owncloud

- Owncloud infinite scale (OCIS): An implementation of the Owncloud server in Go, with the goal of making it faster and more scalable than the PHP version

- Opencloud: A fork of Owncloud infinite scale (Go) after an acquisition of ownCloud, the company.

zamalek 3 hours ago|||
My biggest problem with Nextcloud is that it intentionally broke (at least twice by memory) on some updates, wanting me to run some oci command on the box. Remember that "for my family" also means "for my family when I'm gone." I never got round to having to find an alternative thanks to the divorce, but I'd consider Nextcloud a complete non-starter for this reason.

Find an alternative.

FabCH 4 hours ago|||
I don’t know about owncloud, but I have been hosting a family Nextcloud instance for a little under two years and it works fine.

It’s boring. It works.

m00dy 4 hours ago||
same here, great choice for a private family cloud.
maxloh 4 hours ago|||
Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

OwnCloud is written in Go but employs an open-core model. Some features are locked behind a proprietary paywall.

cheschire 3 hours ago|||
“OwnCloud infinite scale” is written in Go. But ownCloud 10 is php.

I tried for weeks to get OCIS working but gave up and went back to ownCloud 10.

They’re committed to security updates for 10 but it’s a small company. I doubt it will get much attention sadly.

graemep 3 hours ago||||
Shared nothing is no scaleable?
mbesto 4 hours ago|||
> Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

Lol what? Facebook (pre Hack), Tumblr, Wordpress, Etsy...

smilespray 2 hours ago||
Nextcloud and Wordpress both suffer massively from technical debt.
encom 4 hours ago||
The good OwnCloud is abandoned, and instead they released some meme enterprise nonsense.

I'm running NextCloud, but I hesitate to call it good, because of its kitchen sink approach to features. I really want 2015 era OwnCloud with just files, it being PHP/MariaDB/Apache-based. I refuse to use anything that requires Docker, which is most of the slop alternatives currently available.

kombine 4 hours ago|||
I run nextcloud on a NixOS server within a systemd container, so no Docker.
doubled112 4 hours ago|||
You can remove almost app in Nextcloud. It is pretty modular. You can have a files only Nextcloud, last time I tried.
Diti 3 hours ago||
Am I the only one who doesn’t trust Nextcloud because they use Vimeo instead of a privacy-respecting CDN to showcase videos of their project?
redlewel 3 hours ago|
Yes, you are the only one.
tda 4 hours ago|
I run Nextcloud at home with 1.5TB of files and 2 users, on a reasonably sized server. It is painfully slow. Still better than OneDrive, but only just: synscing takes forever, never reaching a fraction of available bandwidth. Upload from my phone is flaky, often hangs and needs manual intervention. It is a battery drain. The whole experience with add-ons and the general UI feels like a 2010 PHP app.

I am grateful Nextcloud exists, but no app deserves a vibe coded Rust rewrite more than Nextcloud. Literally nothing to loose

chrneu 4 hours ago||
This seems to be a really common issue with NextCloud. I'd say about 30% of installs seems to just..be slow? I've had this happen to me on a handful of installs, and i've had friends/collegues it's happened to.

I'm not aware of any "Fix" besides whiping your install(s) and trying again. Try not to use a backup if you can, as it can keep the slowness/lag across installs.

It's really annoying.

Schlagbohrer 3 hours ago|||
At that point it would be so painful it'd prompt users to switch to competing software.

The whole NextCloud suite seems to have this problem of too many offerings that don't get polished to completion.

mixmastamyk 3 hours ago|||
Opencloud is the golang rewrite and is much faster.
ezst 2 hours ago||
Look into "next cloud HPB" (High performance backend) https://github.com/nextcloud/notify_push
Melatonic 11 minutes ago||
You sure that's the right link ?