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Posted by jeremy_k 1 hour ago

Software Is Made Between Commits(zed.dev)
77 points | 39 comments
tomjakubowski 22 minutes ago|
I really don't like this. The code I write between commits is my thinking. I think by writing some code out, deleting it, writing again. The code I write that's shipped in commits is written for others to understand, and is a product of that writing for thinking process.

I don't want my thoughts to be serialized, version controlled and publicly accessible.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s44222-025-00323-4

fridder 11 minutes ago||
The collaboration part I’m skeptical of but I get it, as it sounds like a feature made for business consumers
0xb0565e486 14 minutes ago||
Aren't you paid to think?
NewJazz 3 minutes ago|||
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bauldursdev 9 minutes ago||||
No I'm paid to write code.
malyk 1 minute ago|||
No, you are paid to provide solutions for your customers.
NewJazz 3 minutes ago|||
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sieabahlpark 9 minutes ago|||
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mplanchard 20 minutes ago||
There are so many early-stage startups also competing in this space right now. I’ve been on the interview circuit the past few weeks and talked to at least two. It’s going to be stiff competition for any of these tools to get well-established enough to be successful at a large scale.

I can’t help but feel like it is all enabling a level of developer surveillance with which I am deeply uncomfortable, though.

prodigycorp 33 minutes ago||
I have an uneasy feeling in my stomach because i know anthropic or openai acquiring zed is inevitable. They have too many good ideas and their software is too good.
clickety_clack 16 minutes ago||
Ya, their coding harness is way better than Claude code, but because it’s directly using the clause api it’s way more expensive. Rolling it into the family would make it product-class-defining.
darepublic 23 minutes ago|||
They drove up to my house with a dump truck full of money... Im not made of stone!
elevation 20 minutes ago|||
> I have an uneasy feeling in my stomach because i know anthropic or openai acquiring zed is inevitable. They have too many good ideas and their software is too good.

Why stop at zed? The trillion dollar investment AI companies have amassed was nominally for datacenters, but as those costs rise and completion timelines extend past the typical business planning horizon, it becomes more efficient to put the money to work elsewhere. You can buy whatever you want with a trillion dollars.

whazor 21 minutes ago||
Seems like where anthropic or openai want to go, there are no editors anymore.

I personally want better read-only code tools, or maybe the return of UML?

prodigycorp 20 minutes ago||
I think it's the other way around. OpenAI is definitely recreating the IDE from scratch with codex app.
OtherShrezzing 2 minutes ago||
I don’t see the value proposition here. I’ve seen roughly this feature proposed by multiple companies, and absolutely none of the have given a convincing reason for the technology to exist.
these 6 minutes ago||
This seems like a great way to facilitate data gathering for improving LLMs coding performance.

If previously you needed to take action 1, 2, 3 to go from state A to B, all you saw was the change from A, B. Now you see intermediates 1, 2, 3 and can train the models to skip straight to B with the added context of the intermediate states.

Xotic007 6 minutes ago||
A commit is useful because you cleaned it up first. The messing around in between is where you try things and delete the dead ends and most of it is meant to be thrown away. Saving every change and every agent message keeps all that junk around instead.
ivanjermakov 8 minutes ago||
Just a stream of thoughts: if git commits were a list of sequential primitive changes instead of diff snapshots, conflict resolution would be trivial in most cases.

Not without cons of course: commit byte size, public WIP work and leaked secrets/unwanted edits.

ukprogrammer 1 minute ago||
With LLMs now being responsible for the physical typing of code and mundane plumbing tasks, this is a wise direction to go into

Our human ability is not defined by our _absolute_ output, but, by the quality of the _delta_ applied to an engineering artefact

Great engineers obsess over every keystroke

With LLMs, a much smaller number of keystrokes can create a much larger and more positively impactful delta

Every delta to the codebase can tell us some informational property about the behaviour of the system and storing that information WILL prove to be useful in the future

pjm331 1 hour ago||
so i think the thing that everyone building these git alternatives is missing is a multi-repo story - unless the expectation is that everyone is going to start operating out of monorepos

i've settled on all of this context attached to issues in a project management system and referenced from commits

it works just fine - its not like your agent cannot read your issue tracker

jackxlau 10 minutes ago||
I came across the conclusion here since a change sometimes spans several repos, per-repo history optimizes the wrong target.
QuercusMax 30 minutes ago||
I've built some skills to help work with multiple repos, but it's really annoying how e.g. repo-specific .claude/ configs are only read when you start the agent in the repo folder. There's a ton of low hanging fruit to improve dev experience.
fridder 15 minutes ago|
Well shoot, they beat me to the punch. I’d been circling around something like this, just not collaborative and obviously more thought out than my random experiments. Minus the collab portions I’m interested to see how it compares to jujutsu
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