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Posted by jjfoooo4 22 hours ago

If you are asking for human attention, demonstrate human effort(tombedor.dev)
1396 points | 441 commentspage 3
miqkt 19 hours ago|
Love the principle, preach!

I think I've been following this subconsciously as LLM artifacts reached some threshold of pervasiveness across the work I do. If I can sense (maybe eventually I won't be able to because of how capable the technology becomes?) that what I'm reading is wholly regurgitated out by an LLM, I automatically care less and feel inclined to respond in kind by generating an artificial response in return.

nusl 10 hours ago||
I've seen this happen a bunch too, though fortunately it hasn't been _that_ common. More often is managers that don't understand things using AI tools to try to understand them, mostly failing, and then regurgitating the LLM output during a meeting. Added as a link on my blog, too, since I have a similar article.
paultopia 4 hours ago||
Good rule to apply to companies too. If someone sics AI on me through their customer service line, I feel totally free to sic AI right back at them
jmeri 14 hours ago||
Why should I bother to read something someone else has not bothered to write?
madaxe_again 14 hours ago|
It really depends. In many cases, you absolutely shouldn’t.

In some however, you should. For instance, yesterday I sent a lengthy email in a language I barely speak threatening legal action against a business. I had an LLM translate/write it as it’s a language Google translate makes a mess of, every time.

So in that case, you’d be advised to read it lest you end up in court.

boomlinde 4 hours ago|||
Did you bother to read the resulting translation?
tristor 7 hours ago|||
If you are operating a business in a part of the world where you expect to engage in the court system, you should hire someone that is fluent in the language spoken in that part of the world to act on your behalf. If you cannot afford to do so, or refuse to do so, why would anyway take your legal threats seriously?
relativeadv 6 hours ago||
I've been writing technical documentation and architecture docs that no one ever reads for years. I now write those same documents using ai in a fraction of the time. No one reads those either but they are memorialized so that no one can bitch about tribal knowledge.
KerrickStaley 10 hours ago||
A somewhat related experience: I asked for advice on Twitter about something and got two unhelpful AI-generated responses (from accounts I have never heard of / don’t follow) and no human responses. The thing is that I already asked multiple frontier AIs the same question and didn’t get a satisfying answer. I specifically went to Twitter because AI did not have the answers I was looking for. Providing an AI answer to a human question assumes that the asker hasn’t already done their homework and tried asking an AI.
dennysora-main 5 hours ago||
I interacting with others, I still read through the entire post and its arguments.

And I write my replies before, I often have a LLM check for any errors or miss thing.

LLM can help me catch blind spots or mistake.

I think LLMs can't replace our own thinking. For me, an LLM is good tools for discuss ideas and talk me more knowledge.

My english is bad, but can help the LLM tto translate paper, help me quick get the infomation.

I like face to face talk with others, Can help me triggers deep thinking and funny

sutib 5 hours ago||
If someone manages to devise a way to prove something was written by a human they will make a lot of goola
rDr4g0n 20 hours ago||
around my workplace we say if you're copy/pasting llm output, you're indicating an llm can do your job.
nlawalker 21 hours ago|
This isn’t sufficient, it needs to be “if you are asking for assumption of accountability, demonstrate human effort.”

In my experience, people who make requests like this don’t care about your attention, they only care about getting you on the hook for something. Your application of attention as a requirement for that is irrelevant to them.

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