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Posted by mooreds 5 hours ago

A dumpster arrived behind my university's library(yalereview.org)
99 points | 71 commentspage 2
CalChris 2 hours ago|
Berkeley has the Northern Regional Library Facility in Richmond, CA for this very purpose. I’ve checked out books where they crackled as I opened them and it was clear I was the first to read them.

https://www.lib.berkeley.edu/visit/nrlf

sailfast 2 hours ago||
What’s wrong with e-books? Highlighting is awesome. Accessible and searchable! I have a number of paper books myself but it seems odd to need to have them all on a shelf outside of the need to show your identity to folks that walk into the room with you, or to have some form of art “on the wall” to help one think.
ceayo 2 hours ago||
- E-Books smell awful.

- It's fun to collect, to look at what you have.

- You can remember the books, by looking at your shelves.

- You /actually/ own something, instead of some random variable in Jeff Bezos' database saying you are /allowed to/ read it.

gowld 1 hour ago||
No one is stopping you from building your own library.
toomuchtodo 2 hours ago||
DRM and control over the knowledge within. This is why the Internet Archive fought and lost against publishers to lend ebooks; their goal was to be a library, not just a long term storage archive. The industry treats ebooks as a license, but first sale doctrine preserves the right for libraries to buy and lend books out at no additional cost per rental period. And so, they can only collect and vault knowledge until copyright laws change, while others are not constrained to share liberally (Anna's Archive, Z-lib, etc).

If everything is locked up in ebooks with DRM (Amazon recently nuked old Kindles to close a DRM loophole), culture is locked behind corporate paywalls.

NoMoreNicksLeft 1 hour ago|||
>>What’s wrong with e-books?

>DRM

You're downloading them wrong.

gowld 1 hour ago|||
> If everything is locked up in ebooks with DRM (Amazon recently nuked old Kindles to close a DRM loophole), culture is locked behind corporate paywalls.

Yes, that's what funds the creation of culture. If intellectual property is unprotected, then creators of that property are not supported.

toomuchtodo 56 minutes ago||
Please provide a citation supporting this assertion.
TFNA 4 hours ago||
Interesting to see the talk of “F-pattern scrolling through electronic publications”, which was new to me.

As an academic, the vast majority of my reading is on my Kobo, and I don’t think this particular medium encourages this. Sure, an e-reader is inferior to print books in terms of random access and keeping multiple pages open at once, but I don’t find myself skimming the way I might on a laptop screen or smartphone.

beej71 3 hours ago||
Also, when I (GenX) open my ereader on my phone, I read it just like anything else. And I read paper books, on two e-readers, my phone, and my computer screen.

If it's some online article, though, I definitely skim. And I'd skim if it were printed, too.

crtasm 3 hours ago||
any system with pages you "turn" certainly feels very different to reading a webpage (or PDF) with free vertical scrolling
deaux 2 hours ago||
> since a state university’s property, even if it’s been deemed trash, cannot be transferred to private individuals.

Gotta love how as hundreds of billions of tax dollars are being misappropriated through corruption, state university books about to be trashed can't be taken home supposedly to prevent corruption. Nothing wrong with throwing away books, but let common sense prevail and people take them home.

Down with the oligarchy.

j_w 2 hours ago|
So if you want them just dumpster dive for them.
anigbrowl 2 hours ago||
Honestly, I think part of the problem is that around the time librarians rebranded themselves as 'information scientists' they got a bit carried away about how special they were and fell in love with the power of administration - so much more exciting than merely curating books selected by other people.
gowld 1 hour ago|
Why do those "other people" get a free pass to be "in love with the power of administration"?
LaGrange 3 hours ago||
Some people truly love paper books more than having people read books. It’s one of the more seemingly paradoxical ways anti-intellectualism manifests.
ceayo 2 hours ago|
Without books, what books are they going to read?
SauntSolaire 2 hours ago||
E-books supposedly, since the parent explicitly specified paper books.
roysting 3 hours ago||
Don’t worry everyone, the Ministry of Truth will make sure we know what we need to know.
ck2 2 hours ago||
vaguely reminds me of the library massacre at New College

* https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/d4018abd-6789-46ea-83bc-092fddc313...

* https://abcnews.com/US/books-dumped-en-masse-floridas-new-co...

WillAdams 3 hours ago|
A given library system should have a "last copy" policy, and should keep at least one copy of each book which has been added to their collection --- any which can't afford that need more funding.

>Libraries will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no libraries. --- Anne Herbert

When I was very young, my father retired to a rural county in Virginia where the county library was a carrel of used paperbacks in the basement library --- for each Scholastic book order, the teacher would remove a couple of books (as well as the promotional poster which my purchases made eligible), then hand me the box and the balance of its contents.

Like the furrow's length which I grew to feel in my bones by helping a neighbor plow his garden w/ a horse, I feel that quote in my soul.

>A home without books is a body without soul. (or words to that effect) --- Marcus Tullius Cicero/G.K. Chesterton

c.f.,

>No ornament of a house can compare with books; they are constant company in a room, even when you are not reading them. --- Harriet Beecher Stowe