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Posted by FergusArgyll 6 hours ago

Slightly reducing the sloppiness of AI generated front end(envs.net)
125 points | 81 commentspage 3
nozzlegear 2 hours ago|
I kinda liked the Original, HIG and Windows 11 versions the most. When I think "AI slop" (in terms of web design), I think dark theme, rich purples and vibrant hues, huge headings, etc. The SaaS one kind of has that with the purples and vibrant hues; it easily looks the "sloppiest" to my eye.

Can't for personal preferences I suppose.

LucidLynx 4 hours ago||
>> Slop is not a distinct style, it can be overlaid on top of many others. Even when I got it to make a page to look like X, it looked like X with slop.

Today, I can visit a website and instantly tell it was generated using LLMs and agents from A to Z:

1. Everything is in blue or mauve gradient, with a white background, and a single JavaScript-heavy page that lags as soon as you scroll a little.

2. There are always a ton of 404 pages.

3. Third, the HTML comments often expose credentials and to-do lists—sometimes even right above the login page (true story...).

This kind of website is a hard pass for me, and I add the company (and its founders) to my personal blacklist of people and companies I’ll never use anything from.

jstummbillig 4 hours ago||
I don't think that is true, in the way that it always wasn't: How would you be able to tell when it's done properly?

Think WordPress installations: Depending on how it's done you can either tell at a glance (probably ~90% of WP installations at some points in time) or you have no clue until you look at the html source.

Of course, when given the option to not do it properly is always alluring and then you can tell.

deaux 4 hours ago||
So you can tell for maybe 20% of websites that have been generated by LLMs over the last few months.
swiftcoder 5 hours ago||
To me the "AI slop" mostly just looks like the last decade of SaaS products.

Do the landing pages of auth0.com, devcycle.com, micro.com, or datadog.com not look like slop to other people?

pixl97 3 hours ago||
I mean, no these don't look like AI slop. At worst they are 'web slop'. But even with that said a site that looks like this is what I expect these days from most businesses. I'm not looking at these companies for their far out web design capabilities, in fact a site that's somewhat standardized and has things where we expect them is far more useful.
deaux 4 hours ago||
auth0 does get close to slop. If I were them I'd definitely change things up. Devcycle and Datadog are nothing like generated slop. I haven't seen Fable websites yet - supposedly a lot better - but Opus and GPT can't design anything even close to those two. They can implement it if you give them a screenshot, but that's not designing something. Micro.com shows me a domain sale page.
swiftcoder 57 minutes ago||
sorry, that was meant to be miro.com, before autocorrect struck
sevenseacat 4 hours ago||
I had to read the post about five times and still didn't see the link to the actual examples - I actually had to view source to see the URL.

I like the idea - all of the designs are pretty meh though. If I had to pick one, I'd pick the HIG one (apart from that cursed glass effect on scroll) and then probably the Win11 one.

toppy 4 hours ago|
"You can check some of the results out here" in Qt section
solidasparagus 3 hours ago||
I think the slop part is just what you get when you inject no opinions and put in no effort to apply taste (which you probably have and/or could develop). No care is put in. It looks generic and sloppy because it is generic and sloppy. You might have preferences over which generic and sloppy style is preferred, but at the end of the day a UI built without effort is going to look like what it is.

But if it functions fine and you don't have taste or want to be opinionated, why do you care?

ramesh31 5 hours ago||
Tailwind is the answer. Always pure Tailwind, not custom classes + utilities. It makes a massive difference vs. stylesheets. The LLM is able to actually reason about your UI in discrete chunks with a semantic layer over the styling, vs. bouncing back and forth between CSS/HTML and trying to reason about custom classes generated on the fly.
kingkongjaffa 5 hours ago||
Does anyone have good examples of well designed web applications - not landing pages or peoples tech blogs, which are often listed here on HN. But like actual applications that do a complex task with the user using it as a tool.
crazysim 4 hours ago||
https://www.mcmaster.com/ has a reputation
dominotw 4 hours ago||
coulve been a pdf file
esafak 2 hours ago||
Linear
Xotic007 3 hours ago||
Makes sense. Slop is basically what you get when there's nothing specific to copy and so the AI it just averages every web style together. Qt works because there's really only one way Qt looks.Modern web has a million versions of everything so you average all that and get slop.
high_byte 4 hours ago|
on the other hand steve jobs would've called Qt human-slop

guess it's a matter of taste

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