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Posted by tuhtah 14 hours ago

Hetzner Price Adjustment(docs.hetzner.com)
https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/standardization-and-price-...
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packetsent 11 hours ago|
Looks like my AX162 isn't being retired anytime soon...

AX162 (256GB) went from €274 -> €844

winterbourne 5 hours ago||
This gives permission for all other providers to do the same.
minraws 8 hours ago||
Well we are officially fucked. That's some increase, not angry against hetzner they might have been forced, but man is this sad.

I built a homelab before the crisis started which might allow me to survive this for the next few years.

But man am I sad about folks trying to build new projects.

Valodim 11 hours ago||
I'll happily pay the new prices, if they actually have the servers available. Cheap pricing is nice, but not that useful when in practice you can't actually buy most of the time.
Aldipower 11 hours ago||
And the worst for my setup, there is no more ECC RAM available in their offers. At least not unless you pay an insane amount of cash..
mkesper 11 hours ago||
Server auction still features cheap servers with ECC: https://www.hetzner.com/sb/#ecc=true
Aldipower 10 hours ago||
Not reliable, from a buying/availability perspective.
elAhmo 11 hours ago||
Is ECC RAM that much valuable in day to day for non-critical usages?
Aldipower 10 hours ago|||
Short: Yes, but of course it depends. Long: I am dealing with a huge amount of fitness related health data which gets aggregated into metrics. If those metrics are wrong, for whatever reason, this is not great.

If you just run some blogs, of course, this is not important.

sph 10 hours ago||||
The risk of bit flips is a percentage. The more RAM you have, the greater the likelihood. I have experienced heisenbugs on my 64 GB desktop that I bet were because of random bit flips
Havoc 10 hours ago|||
I’ve had it catch a bunch of errors on borderline memory at home. (Despite the memory passing memtests).
Aachen 7 hours ago||
Just to throw it out there, surely we've ruled out ECC RAM gets away with worse modules because the checking bit will catch it? Because I actually tried to generate bit flips for a project once and we got nothing. Also a relatively high traffic site, registering a few bit flip variants (so like example.com -> fxample.com) got no hits whatsoever across a year. I keep seeing reports from people with ECC or people who found an available bit flip variant of a top X website, but it never happens to me on normal RAM. I can't imagine that ECC vendors are selling worse RAM with a check bit, but the more I read the more I wonder if maybe we should check just to be sure
toast0 3 hours ago||
> Just to throw it out there, surely we've ruled out ECC RAM gets away with worse modules because the checking bit will catch it?

Doubtful. With proper support, you get reports/counts per bitflip. Most people will swap out ram that has any detected bitflips or with a small number anyway. And if you have a significant number, the machine check interupts really kill perf anyway.

king_zee 12 hours ago||
I hope this doesn't hit the other servers, did they announce anything on why this increase happened? I would hate to need to move elsewhere
ilioscio 13 hours ago||
Wow this is a brutal price increase for a lot of plans, at least it appears old user instance prices are grandfathered unless you rescale them.
conradfr 12 hours ago||
I see that (new) EX44 servers are now 50% more expensive than before, ouch. Although there's none available anyway.
romaniv 10 hours ago|
AI seems to be ruining every single major thing that drove economic growth for the past 4 decades. PCs, the Web, software in general, high-capacity servers, Raspberry Pis and so on. The next thing to be affected will probably be smartphones. All of these things are foundations of profitable businesses right now and we are destroying them on the mere promise to get to some idiotic utopia in the future.
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