Hetzner Price Adjustment

Posted by tuhtah 16 hours ago

Hetzner Price Adjustment(docs.hetzner.com)

https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/standardization-and-price-...

364 points | 525 commentspage 8

zuzululu 13 hours ago|

"First you corner the market, then you raise the prices" - Walter White

htx80nerd 8 hours ago||

"price adjustment" isnt 2x+ price adjustment is like 5% or 10%

andrepd 8 hours ago||

Is there a summary of price increases?

HackerThemAll 11 hours ago||

I tried to sign up to Hetzner services once. They wanted photo of my government ID, and almost all my personal data, full dossier. So I abstained.

None of OVH, GCP, AWS, Azure wanted so much data about me, and I run my services in all of them successfully. Not in Hetzner.

Sorry Hetzner, you're too data-hungry. Nothing you say justifies that.

hyperionultra 13 hours ago||

We can't factor out greed from this increase. Vote with your wallet! Please.

zkmon 13 hours ago||

It is sucking away electricity from cities, making hardware costly for common user, pumping heat into global atmosphere, taking away jobs, creating massive amount of slop, killing human motivation for creativity, making academics and exams harder, creating fakes that are undetectable, filling internet with plastic content, pumping tons of unmaintainable code, wrecking websites ...

Still - AI is a great achievement?

andai 12 hours ago|

Yeah. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Aachen 9 hours ago||

Things do tend to end up being a net positive or negative, though. Even if both aspects are present, it doesn't seem far-fetched that someone with hindsight in the future would conclude that it was overall a bad thing in the middle of an energy/heating crisis. That would imo preclude the label 'great achievement', but time will have to tell (or we adjust how we use it before history decides on a judgement)

totallygeeky 9 hours ago||

Little bit of number crunching shows that the median increase is 112%, so a 2.12x increase. Median for GER/FIN region is 120%, USA region is 157%, and Singapore is 71%. Worst of all increases is the Euro pricing for USA plan CPX41 with a 209% increase, or 3.09x.

Raw number comparison for those interested: Tried to format it to be readable but its [Plan] [Old Hourly] [New Hourly] [Percent Change] [Old Monthly] [New Monthly] [Percent Change]

  Germany (FSN/NBG) / Finland (HEL) Euro      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CAX11 0.0072 0.0096 33.33% 4.49 5.99 33.41%
  CAX21 0.0128 0.0168 31.25% 7.99 10.49 31.29%
  CAX31 0.0256 0.0336 31.25% 15.99 20.99 31.27%
  CAX41 0.0505 0.0657 30.10% 31.49 40.99 30.17%
  CCX13 0.0256 0.0689 169.14% 15.99 42.99 168.86%
  CCX23 0.0505 0.1378 172.87% 31.49 85.99 173.07%
  CCX33 0.1001 0.2219 121.68% 62.49 138.49 121.62%
  CCX43 0.2003 0.4423 120.82% 124.99 275.99 120.81%
  CCX53 0.4006 0.855 113.43% 249.99 533.49 113.40%
  CCX63 0.6001 1.3678 127.93% 374.49 853.49 127.91%
  CPX22 0.0128 0.0312 143.75% 7.99 19.49 143.93%
  CPX32 0.0224 0.0569 154.02% 13.99 35.49 153.68%
  CPX42 0.0408 0.1114 173.04% 25.49 69.49 172.62%
  CPX52 0.0585 0.161 175.21% 36.49 100.49 175.39%
  CPX62 0.0809 0.2083 157.48% 50.49 129.99 157.46%
  CX23 0.0064 0.0088 37.50% 3.99 5.49 37.59%
  CX33 0.0104 0.0136 30.77% 6.49 8.49 30.82%
  CX43 0.0192 0.0256 33.33% 11.99 15.99 33.36%
  CX53 0.036 0.0473 31.39% 22.49 29.49 31.12%
  Germany (FSN/NBG) / Finland (HEL) Dollar      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CAX11 0.0088 0.0112 27.27% 5.49 6.99 27.32%
  CAX21 0.0152 0.02 31.58% 9.49 12.49 31.61%
  CAX31 0.0296 0.04 35.14% 18.49 24.99 35.15%
  CAX41 0.0593 0.0777 31.03% 36.99 48.49 31.09%
  CCX13 0.0296 0.0809 173.31% 18.49 50.49 173.07%
  CCX23 0.0593 0.1626 174.20% 36.99 101.49 174.37%
  CCX33 0.1186 0.2612 120.24% 73.99 162.99 120.29%
  CCX43 0.2364 0.5216 120.64% 147.49 325.49 120.69%
  CCX53 0.4727 1.0088 113.41% 294.99 629.49 113.39%
  CCX63 0.7083 1.6138 127.84% 441.99 1006.99 127.83%
  CPX22 0.0152 0.0368 142.11% 9.49 22.99 142.26%
  CPX32 0.0256 0.0673 162.89% 15.99 41.99 162.60%
  CPX42 0.0481 0.1314 173.18% 29.99 81.99 173.39%
  CPX52 0.0689 0.1907 176.78% 42.99 118.99 176.79%
  CPX62 0.0953 0.2452 157.29% 59.49 152.99 157.17%
  CX23 0.008 0.0104 30.00% 4.99 6.49 30.06%
  CX33 0.0128 0.016 25.00% 7.99 9.99 25.03%
  CX43 0.0224 0.0296 32.14% 13.99 18.49 32.17%
  CX53 0.0425 0.0561 32.00% 26.49 34.99 32.09%
  USA (ASH/HIL) Euro      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CCX13 0.0272 0.0697 156.25% 16.99 43.49 155.97%
  CCX23 0.0545 0.1402 157.25% 33.99 87.49 157.40%
  CCX33 0.1042 0.2259 116.79% 64.99 140.99 116.94%
  CCX43 0.2083 0.4479 115.03% 129.99 279.49 115.01%
  CCX53 0.4167 0.863 107.10% 259.99 538.49 107.12%
  CCX63 0.625 1.3782 120.51% 389.99 853.49 118.85%
  CPX11 0.0096 0.028 191.67% 5.99 17.49 191.99%
  CPX21 0.0192 0.0513 167.19% 11.99 31.99 166.81%
  CPX31 0.0336 0.1001 197.92% 20.99 62.49 197.71%
  CPX41 0.0625 0.1931 208.96% 38.99 120.49 209.03%
  CPX51 0.125 0.3814 205.12% 77.99 237.99 205.15%
  USA (ASH/HIL)Dollar      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CCX13 0.032 0.0817 155.31% 19.99 50.99 155.08%
  CCX23 0.0641 0.165 157.41% 39.99 102.99 157.54%
  CCX33 0.1234 0.266 115.56% 76.99 165.99 115.60%
  CCX43 0.246 0.528 114.63% 153.49 329.49 114.67%
  CCX53 0.492 1.0184 106.99% 306.99 635.49 107.01%
  CCX63 0.738 1.642 122.49% 460.49 1014.49 120.31%
  CPX11 0.0112 0.0328 192.86% 6.99 20.49 193.13%
  CPX21 0.0224 0.0601 168.30% 13.99 37.49 167.98%
  CPX31 0.04 0.1178 194.50% 24.99 73.49 194.08%
  CPX41 0.0745 0.2267 204.30% 46.49 141.49 204.35%
  CPX51 0.1482 0.4479 202.23% 92.49 279.49 202.18%
  Singapore (SIN) Euro      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CCX13 0.0441 0.0865 96.15% 27.49 53.99 96.40%
  CCX23 0.0825 0.1739 110.79% 51.49 108.49 110.70%
  CCX33 0.1554 0.2796 79.92% 96.99 174.49 79.91%
  CCX43 0.286 0.5465 91.08% 178.49 340.99 91.04%
  CCX53 0.613 1.0449 70.46% 382.49 651.99 70.46%
  CCX63 1.0048 1.661 65.31% 626.99 1,036.49 65.31%
  CPX12 0.0128 0.0248 93.75% 7.99 15.49 93.87%
  CPX22 0.0256 0.0425 66.02% 15.99 26.49 65.67%
  CPX32 0.0521 0.0785 50.67% 32.49 48.99 50.78%
  CPX42 0.0897 0.1498 67.00% 55.99 93.49 66.98%
  CPX52 0.125 0.2155 72.40% 77.99 134.49 72.45%
  CPX62 0.161 0.2756 58.42% 100.49 171.99 58.43%
  Singapore (SIN) Dollar      
  Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
  CCX13 0.0521 0.1017 95.20% 32.49 63.49 95.41%
  CCX23 0.0969 0.2051 111.66% 60.49 127.99 111.59%
  CCX33 0.1835 0.3301 79.89% 114.49 205.99 79.92%
  CCX43 0.3373 0.6442 90.99% 210.49 401.99 90.98%
  CCX53 0.7235 1.2332 70.45% 451.49 769.49 70.43%
  CCX63 1.1851 1.9607 65.45% 739.49 1,223.49 65.45%
  CPX12 0.0152 0.0288 89.47% 9.49 17.99 89.57%
  CPX22 0.0296 0.0497 67.91% 18.49 30.99 67.60%
  CPX32 0.0617 0.0929 50.57% 38.49 57.99 50.66%
  CPX42 0.1058 0.1763 66.64% 65.99 109.99 66.68%
  CPX52 0.1482 0.254 71.39% 92.49 158.49 71.36%
  CPX62 0.1899 0.3253 71.30% 118.49 202.99 71.31%

FpUser 13 hours ago||

The solution I think is to tell all of them starting with clouds to go fuck themselves (where possible of course) and start self hosting. I do this for years and am totally happy. I was also hosting on Hetzner and was thinking to do it again for some (not all) services but not with this new wonderful deal.

da02 13 hours ago||

Other than the price increases, any issues with Hetzner? Any alternatives you would recommend?

mardix 13 hours ago||

Pricing was the "selling" point. People chose Hetzner for their affordable prices compared to anybody else.

But when Hetzner is priced like everyone else, it makes it harder to pick them over the giant AWS, GCP, Digital Ocean etc.

FpUser 12 hours ago||

AWS does not give "bare metal" and the equivalent is still way more expensive. However Hetzner was much preferrable to let's say OVH who also "deals" bare metal but not anymore. So yes Hetzner has lost what I consider was their only advantage.

Aachen 9 hours ago||

Where do you send emails from?

FpUser 8 hours ago||

Same company that registers my domain as well. But I have readable local copy of all my emails.

ulfw 14 hours ago||

Everything is getting stupider by the day.

Tech is killing itself until this idiotic bubble bursts.

Then we'll be in a decade of drought again like 2001

alfanick 14 hours ago||

It's kinda awesome, the DDR prices will go extremely down (lower than before the bubble), and it will be spring time for self-hosted opensource models, cause people will be able to afford the hardware. We just need to wait for the peak.

jaza 5 hours ago|||

Agreed. We enjoyed a decade or more or cheap surplus hardware sitting in data centres, after the dot com crash. Rinse and repeat after the AI bubble bursts in x time from now (my forecast is x = 2-3 years).

Capricorn2481 13 hours ago|||

> the DDR prices will go extremely down (lower than before the bubble)

Why? From what I understand, Ram production is not ramping up. Even if a bubble does pop, I don't think it's even guaranteed to drop to where it was.

ascii0eks84 13 hours ago||

2005 - 2015'ish the DDR prices were artificially inflated by factory fires and such in asia. hope it's not going to repeat, need to have some excuse to drive the prices up..

dartharva 13 hours ago|||

What do you mean by "decade of drought"? In most accounts the 2000s were the absolute best years for rapidly emerging and fun tech.

drstewart 13 hours ago||

Just like the energy industry is killing itself until this idiotic bubble bursts again. Can't wait till oil / solar prices implode and there's a decade of drought where no one users energy for a long time.

chnbydigi 14 hours ago|

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