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Posted by RIshabh235 14 hours ago

DeepSeek Introduces Vision(chat.deepseek.com)
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tw1984 12 hours ago|
what is more interesting to me is why it takes so long for them to support vision.

does it implies that Liang believes vision/voice is less important on its way to AGI?

rented_mule 2 hours ago||
My understanding is that the core research team is between 100 and 200 people. I don't have a great source for that - a friend of a friend is on the team. By comparison, Open AI's Chief Research Officer said their core research team was about 500 at the end of 2025[1]. With so few people, DeepSeek would have be more selective.

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[1] https://youtu.be/ZeyHBM2Y5_4?t=483

segmondy 6 hours ago|||
They are not playing pissing fest. They have revolutionary research on Vision if you read their white papers, they just take their time. Every major release from them has brought something really new to the field, V3, R1, OCR, V3.2, V4.
RIshabh235 12 hours ago||
Might be compute bottleneck due to the US chips act and migrating to Huawei ecosystem.
thiago_fm 11 hours ago||
Just wait until they release their coding model. Once they do an Opus-level coding model, the sandcastle of the AI economy in the US will fall
flatline 3 hours ago||
In my view, they are already chipping away at it, and have been since R1 was announced. This is the first commercial non-US tech product I've used heavily. The quality is incredible, I don't need Opus for most of my work on personal projects, I've used DS+OpenCode to create full-blown products in fractions of the time it would have taken me solo.
el_io 11 hours ago||
They had deepseek-coder.
Azantys 9 hours ago||
Yeah but it wasnt close to Opus etc. Still a good local model when it released
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andrewstuart 13 hours ago|
OpenAI and Anthropic need to get this free foreign competition banned.
0xpgm 12 hours ago||
Is that before or after the OpenAI and Anthropic pay off all the people and companies who's copyrights were violated when they used their works for free to train their models?

At least DeepSeek freely gives back the benefits.

nlkkjhlkjsd 8 hours ago|||
in other comments, you're arguing for banning deepseek because it is "against democratic capitalism." And here you are, arguing for governments to protect domestic companies against foreign competition.

Competition is a good thing sometimes. It forces companies to innovate.

Of course, organizations like ycombinator gave that up many years ago. Now our industry is mask-off about their desire to create monopolies so they can collect exorbitant rents.

epolanski 13 hours ago||
Care to expand on why? Or did you forgot the /s at the end?
dudisubekti 13 hours ago|||
I feel like '/s' has ruined irony on the internet. Irony is at its best if left ambiguous, lol.
pjc50 11 hours ago|||
Too many people have said too many stupid things entirely seriously.
cromka 13 hours ago||||
Nah, they're serious actually!
Weryj 13 hours ago|||
Wait, did that need a /s?
ReptileMan 13 hours ago||||
If everything goes to plan everyone involved with big US models will be trillionaire and everyone else will poor and unemployed. If there are open and cheap to run Chinese models (and please god silicon) the financial house of cards that we have build will fall, people involved with big US models will be poor and unemployed, and everyone else will be slightly less poor and unemployed than in the first scenario.

What is good for Dario is good for America.

SkyBelow 8 hours ago||
>and everyone else will poor and unemployed

How so? Everyone would still have their skills to provide goods and services and everyone would still have wants for other's goods and services, so an economy would still run. AI can shift the economy but it doesn't lock the entire population out of the economy. It can lock out any one group because everyone else gets the good/services of that group for cheaper from the AI, but if everyone else can't afford the AI, if the AI locks everyone out, then they trade between themselves instead. And that is the sort of 'worst case possible' outcome, not even what is likely to happen as the AI makes some things much cheaper.

andrewstuart 13 hours ago|||
Why do you think it’s free?

Any ideas, theories where they get their payoff?

hootz 10 hours ago|||
But it's not free, unless you also call Claude free just because it has a free tier.
cromka 13 hours ago|||
Yes, subscription options they sell on deepseek.com