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Posted by Adam-Hincu 12 hours ago

Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly(www.windowslatest.com)
581 points | 387 commentspage 6
JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago|
Is this why Outlook for Mac is such crap?
SV_BubbleTime 10 hours ago|
Yes, that’s effectively new outlook in an electron(-like?) container.
blueferret 10 hours ago||
At this point I would pay up front (one-time fee) for a Windows email client that rendered fast, worked with multiple account types including Outlook, had a nice simple interface so I can focus on the messages, and didn't have AI stuffed into it. Seems like we just don't have that.
rf15 5 hours ago|
Build one? sounds like there is demand!
complianceowll 11 hours ago||
Me: I'm tired of this, grandpa... Microsoft: Well that's too damn bad!
Sharlin 11 hours ago||
The Outlook web app breaks browser navigation, I thought we had that figured out in SPAs like, more than a decade ago. But it does load almost-instantly (less than a second) so that's nice at least.
rcarmo 11 hours ago|
Where does it break nav? Honest question, because I have been living inside it for almost 7 years now and actually prefer it to any of the desktop clients (except on the Mac).
Sharlin 11 hours ago||
On desktop (Firefox) at least if I navigate to another folder, the URL changes but the browser back button doesn't change the view back to inbox. On mobile (iOS Safari), if I open an email, then try to navigate back, it takes me all the way back to the login page. The app also seems to use old-fashioned #anchor-based URLs rather than the navigation API.

(Hilariously, I found a feedback link but it points to a 404.)

reddalo 9 hours ago||
The funny thing is that the Outlook client for Mac is a native app and it's way better than the Windows client.
AzzieElbab 10 hours ago||
Oh man! How do we ever get enough compute to run AI if AI-written apps end up eating it all?
delduca 7 hours ago||
It should be based on Team's code base :-)
DaedalusII 11 hours ago||
its faster to use an LLM + MCP (chatgpt or claude integration cloud integration) to search your email than to use the search field in the web browser now

its also possibly cheaper than the monthly licence fee for the desktop app suite

botanrice 11 hours ago||
Literally was just googling yesterday about why Windows File Explorer genuinely takes longer to boot up than microsoft edge. Insane how fast they are enshittifying.
BLKNSLVR 11 hours ago|
I think that's caused by OneDrive. Which was the "shove down your throat" flavour of a couple of generations ago.

F OneDrive.

botanrice 5 hours ago||
yea I do think you're right. Really dislike that they've truly stuffed it down as everything getting auto-uploaded to OneDrive. Would be happy to use it to store certain docs but can't control how work sets it up ya know? stuck suffering instead lmao
2OEH8eoCRo0 11 hours ago|
Decisions of a company with no competition.
SV_BubbleTime 10 hours ago|
I like that many of the people the agree with this live in California and are or assume to be happy with complete one-party rule.
qwerpy 10 hours ago||
It's not so bad here in Orange County. City/county politics are more balanced and provide pretty good counterweights to the state party. It's much better than the Seattle area, which truly has uniparty rule and it shows. People are less civil and tolerant there, crime and schools are worse, quality of life is lower.

I agree with the parent comment though. MS just doesn't have meaningful competition for Windows and Office, and the terrible software quality/experience is what we get.

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