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Posted by moultano 18 hours ago

Where to Find the Colors Your Screen Can't Show You(moultano.wordpress.com)
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garaetjjte 6 hours ago|
I hate that type of diagrams. Why sRGB-encoded image, pretends to show any color outside of sRGB region? It doesn't make any sense! (and when these diagrams attempt to illustrate sRGB, often actual colors encoded are narrower than full sRGB)
dkeners 9 hours ago||
This reminds me of a video [1] going over the use of structural color photography, where theoretically what you see in real life is what you get in your final image. It cover some of the same topics, but goes more in depth about the process of structural color and some animal examples, like the butterfly mentioned in the article. If you have an interest in chemistry or film photography it is a great watch! This process was also, to my knowledge, the stepping stone for holograms, which we can now see structural colors everyday on IDs and licenses.

[1] (18 minutes) https://youtu.be/-DyrBDsKA5s

thinkingemote 15 hours ago||
Can these colours be replicated or captured using ink, paint or traditional film photography?
orthoxerox 14 hours ago||
Ultramarine pigment is too blue for your screen to replicate properly, for example. I don't know if there's a pigment that reflects only 520nm light, though.
WillAdams 6 hours ago|||
Should be.

For printing there was PANTONE's Hexachrome which used 6 ink colours to greatly extend the possible colour range --- but the only printer I know of who made great use of, and profited by doing so, used it only for its increased range's covering of additional spot colours --- so they basically persuaded every printer w/in driving distance to sub-contract spot colour work to them (for those colours which fit in the Hexachrome gamut), then used fancy software to gang up jobs onto a plate, run as many copies as were necessary, cut and stack, and then send out the jobs and run the next plate, no need to wash down the press and change inks.

I tried to sell the idea of implementing it for high-end photo pieces at a printer I worked at, but no real interest because it was difficult for sales to communicate, and no one wanted to spend money printing a sample/researching images which benefited from it.

anfilt 2 hours ago||
I do think it would be awesome if something like offset printing was more accessible. The number of stages/steps for a press that can used for a color or effect is often just limited by floor space. Although some presses can't have an other stage as easily added depending on the manufacture.
lukewarm707 8 hours ago|||
yes, using a photo printer. with varying levels of price and gamut.
carlosjobim 9 hours ago||
Many colours outside of the electric screen spectrum can be made with ink or paint. You probably have a bunch of objects in your own house with colours that can't be shown as full on your screen.
lukewarm707 9 hours ago||
interesting, nicely written article. if you want to replicate the colors, you can use wider gamut end to end:

- use raw format on the camera

- edit raw eg pro photo rgb

- send this to a wide gamut printer with a large set of inks to view the image

the printer would replicate the color outside the srgb space

there are such inks as cyan, light cyan, orange

AdamH12113 6 hours ago||
My favorite color in all the world is the green of a mineral called dioptase. It's a deep, dark green, richer than an emerald. It looks amazing in real life and utterly boring on an RGB display. The Houston Museum of Natural Science has a large sample; every time I'm there I go stare at it for a while.
circadian 12 hours ago||
I once abseiled into a crevasse while in Antarctica. The colours I saw in there were utterly breathtaking and I never knew why. Now I do, and this also tells mewhy the photos don't even remotely do it justice (aside from not being as big and three dimensional!)

Thanks for such a beautiful article about not looking at a screen: I'm off outside... :)

pphysch 15 hours ago||
What an truly incredible article, particularly the way the color space diagrams are used to gradually tell the story (and the prose is great too). I actually want to read it again tomorrow morning in more depth.
icemelt8 10 hours ago||
what a beautiful article, thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
fortran77 8 hours ago||
I'm having an amazing time seeing colors now because I just had cataract surgery on my right eye (left eye next month) and have a clear lens again. If I compare my new right eye to my old left eye, I'm seeing colors I haven't seen in decades. Skies look blue with my right eye, gray with my left.

It's odd he noted Apple monitiers were "better". Maybe but marginally. Many options for other platforms, like Asus Pro Arte, beat it handily. And profressional color graders use Sony BVM series (Trimaster HX / OLED) for HDR or Flanders Scientific (FSI) DM/XM series or Eizo ColorEdge CG series. You won't see a single Mac at a movie studio for movie editing or color grading.

analog8374 10 hours ago|
Colors on the screen are like symbols. Like words. they aren't the actual experience. They evoke the experience. Your mind connects the color to a memory and then it's the memory that you experience.

That's screen reality. 1% evocative symbols and 99% in your head.

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