Petition against Meta's employee training data collection for ML models

Posted by reasonableklout 2 days ago

Petition against Meta's employee training data collection for ML models(mcipetition.com)

78 points | 81 commentspage 3

btbuildem 2 days ago|

Petition? What do you think this is, a democracy?

All* corporations are dictatorships, and you're disposable machinery in one.

Irony is off the charts here, given what you helped build.

*not Mondragon, but like, pretty much all.

dylan604 2 days ago||

What does a petition have to do with democracy? They are not suggesting putting it to a vote. They have a grievance with authority and are attempting to show how widespread that grievance is with signatures of those aggrieved.

tdeck 2 days ago||

Also historically something like a petition seems to always be the first step in any kind of pressure campaign. It's a relatively low stakes (but not completely risk free) way to count support.

DrJokepu 2 days ago||

> first step in any kind of pressure campaign

Not how corporate politics work.

> low stakes

Not how corporate politics work.

zeroonetwothree 2 days ago||

Petitioning a king is very traditional.

postsantum 2 days ago||

Have they tried to stage a strike and block the road?

In Meta Quest of course

3997531578 1 day ago||

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irishcoffee 2 days ago|

Oh man, a petition. Now stage a walk out, maybe a protest. They’re all equally effective.

supertroop 2 days ago|

If you think walkouts or protests don’t do anything, you might want to brush up on history. Or maybe discover it. Google is your friend. I mean everything from suffrage to organized labor to civil rights in the US was the result of massive coordinated action. You do know that right? Maybe even read up on Gandhi, or more recently French labor protests.

refactor_master 2 days ago|||

> Google is your friend

But really, it's more like tolerated business partner, right?

soundworlds 2 days ago|||

I've been using Kagi for the last year, and it is like an actually helpful business partner.

Even if you use another one, we need to break the myth that Google is the only option out there.

Fnoord 2 days ago|||

If you're not paying Google, you're the product. Same with Facebook. Both of these companies are data mining/harvesting and advertising.

I'm also a Kagi user, but the index they mainly use is Google's. So I am paying for a good UI, a couple of nice features, and a frontend/proxy.

The only independent index I am aware of, is Mojeek.

supertroop 1 day ago|||

I use Kagi. They actually use Google but with a different front end. I don’t plan to stop using Kagi.

soundworlds 1 day ago||

Glad to hear you're also enjoying it!

Just for anyone else reading, I would say it is inaccurate to say it is a different front-end over Google. They pull from a range of search engines, but also run their own web crawlers and indices. It's the closest thing to a fully new search engine we've had so far.

supertroop 1 day ago|||

That’s funny. On the nose. :)

irishcoffee 2 days ago|||

If you think they’re effective in this current day and age you should also read the news.

Thanks for the sermon though.