Posted by audiodude 13 hours ago
Now what?
You want to date your pic ends up on a server.
That’s just the way this works.
Can we actually think of the children? All the children? Their future?
When democracies forget that government is the greatest natural threat to freedom, they forget and undermine the reason we have democracies.
Technical solutions to zero-knowledge proofs of age-of-adulthood without loss of anonymity are recent but available now. The strongest argument for these is to take the wind out of alternatives.
Strangely, promoters of surveillance avoid these solutions.
Even stranger: the bizarre but prevalent counter argument that anonymity protecting solutions won't work, because the surreptitious goal of other solutions is precisely to strip anonymity. We apparently shouldn't do that, because the abusers won't like the wind being taken out of their "front" problems, with real but freedom-preserving solutions!
> You can just lie by using someone else's ZKP.
Yes, it is trivial to share access/identity, purposely or carelessly.
Not sure what point you are making, since that isn't specific to ZKP.
Logs of identity vs. access history being useful for investigating sharing? What kind of logs does California State keep?
What is the scenario where not using ZKP's gets you arrested. Who is collecting what information?
It isn't news that adults can be irresponsible with age-verification credentials.
Letting children use adult's credit cards isn't criminalized either.
Adult sites not default-serving underage users does not require fine-grained surveillance or criminalizing clueless parents/adults.
However, our government is very weak....
Very true. They are currently orchestrating the attack.
It is also why I call age sniffing age sniffing like that; "age verification" is the propaganda term. We need to look which actors are behind this push. I smell a trail of corruption money following these actors pushing for it. It is also fascinating to see how quickly democracies fall victim to this. Soon age sniffing will be mandatory everywhere. The free world wide web will be gone. Right now people think this is hyperpole. Well, we saw that with other technology too ...