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Posted by msephton 1 day ago

Japanese symbols that speak without words(arun.is)
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TacticalCoder 20 hours ago|
Slightly related cool one that my japanese family explained me is that 'w' was used for 'warau' (aka "lol") in online japanese speech.

And so for "laughing a lot" people would write 'wwwwwwww'.

But then 'wwwwwwwwww' looks not unlike grass.

So now to say they're laughing a lot, they're using the real kanji for grass.

We went from 'w', a romanji used as a shortcut for a japanese word, to a kanji because, visually, many 'wwwwwwww' looked somehow like grass.

It's fascinating how in Japan the approach feels more visual. I mean: we may be doing similar things with our "romanji" (roman characters, as japanese calls them) but it's less common.

Speech / ideas / words: it's really something else.

jaredXX 22 hours ago||
Pretty neat
khaki_pine 15 hours ago||
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CHUNK_CHUNK 1 day ago||
One thing I'd add: the "kuuki wo yomu" concept extends beyond symbols into everyday social cues too. A classic example is the "genkan" (entryway) — the slight step-up from outdoor to indoor floor level silently tells you where to remove your shoes, no sign needed. The whole house layout enforces the unspoken rule.

Train station melody chimes are another great example — they differ by station and line, so locals unconsciously recognize which station they're at by sound alone, without reading anything.

There are countless other forms of "reading the air" throughout Japanese daily life. I'd genuinely recommend visiting Japan once to experience it firsthand.

bitwize 22 hours ago|
If you hear a Japanese person yell "K.Y.! K.Y.!" you'd better blush, and not because they're referring to a fun-times lubricant. It stands for "kūki yomenai", literally "cannot read the atmosphere". Kind of like "Hey, read the room, asshole!"
fsadsadsdasdas 18 hours ago||
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masa-kozu 22 hours ago||
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guoqidu71 10 hours ago||
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IndySun 1 day ago|
If "drivers of private vehicles in Japan", must understand these "four symbols" then these are not "Japanese symbols that speak without words".
comradesmith 1 day ago|
I don’t understand your comment. Can you spell it out for me?
IndySun 1 day ago||
The article is decent, but the headline is saying something demonstrably false - evidenced by the article itself.

Not one of the symbols can possibly be understood as to its intended meaning without learning what the symbol represents - that is to say, simply by looking at any of them in no way whatsoever suggests, hints, or shows their meaning in the appropriate context.

freetime2 23 hours ago|||
I understood the article to mean, for example, that the help mark allows people on a train to signal "though I may not outwardly appear like I am disabled, I do have a need for priority seating". And thus people would (hopefully) offer up their seat without needing to be asked with words.

I don't think they meant that the symbols should be universally understood without need for explanation. That would be accomplished separately through some sort of public education campaign. In the case of the "help mark", they actually explain what it means in multiple languages in a big sign right above the priority seating [1].

[1] https://www.kotsu.metro.tokyo.jp/eng/guides/conduct/

comradesmith 22 hours ago||||
The fact you’ve got to learn them doesn’t negate the statement that they communicate without words.

All language has to be learned

Muskwalker 21 hours ago||
True, though I think the point they're aiming at is that symbols like [new driver mark] contrast with literal pictograms like [symbol of person in wheelchair]. You can infer/guess the meaning of [symbol of person in wheelchair] 'without words' in a way that you can't with [new driver mark], because [symbol of person in wheelchair] is communicating with a picture instead, while [new driver mark] appears to be purely convention. (At least, the article doesn't seem to suggest otherwise.)
nekooooo 1 day ago|||
japan glazing imho and i love kamon (family crests). you could have written this article about almost any country.
petesergeant 18 hours ago||
The kamon are very attractive compared to their Western counterparts, to my eye. Other than that it’s just a weird “wow Japan” article.