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Posted by root-parent 1 day ago

SpaceX Drops 14% in One Day, Price Now Below IPO Launch(finance.yahoo.com)
61 points | 62 comments
pera 1 day ago|
-16.5% at the moment... Is the market reacting to the $20B bond offering news?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-22/spacex-ki...

budman1 1 day ago|
so, are these bonds a good buy?
cdrnsf 1 day ago||
A rapid unscheduled financial disassembly.
drivingmenuts 1 day ago|
If my schadenfreude grows anymore, I might burst into tears.
lucamark 1 day ago||
Let's grab some popcorn.

- Price/Sales about 128x (NVIDIA had a peak of a 40x at its peak)

- Bought Twitter per 44 billions. Inflated its valuation to $250 billion just by integrating it into X.AI

- EnterpriseValue/EBITDA about 219x (30x for scaleup business) and negative Price-to-Earnings

- Low free-float trick (minimal public shares available)

Even the market efficiency hypothesis struggles to justify it

redox99 1 day ago||
If the Anthropic, Google, and Reflection AI deals stay afloat, the numbers are much better.
tcp_handshaker 1 day ago||
Spare a thought for the investors who bought SPCX at $218 on the 16 June at 10:00AM...They REALLY needed that stock....
lucamark 1 day ago||
That's bad for ETF owners too. Funds will be legally forced to buy a tightly restricted supply that will pump the price even more
tim333 1 day ago||
Still above the actual IPO price of 135.

It's below where it opened trading on the first day which I guess is what the editorialised headline is supposed to mean. Trading opened at about 160 on the 12th and is about 155 now. Such fluctuations don't really mean much.

manwithopinions 21 hours ago|
First trade was exactly $150. The indicated price was falling from around $170 and then when it hit $150 the market opened.
stackbutterflow 1 day ago||
Not convinced it means anything in one way or another.

I remember the same headlines right after Facebook's IPO. The discourse was very much that it was obvious that a website to connect with your friends wouldn't make money.

2OEH8eoCRo0 1 day ago|
Facebook was profitable
rlt 1 day ago|||
What's your point? If people were skeptical of Facebook even if it was profitable then it reinforces the grandparent comment's point.
ralfd 1 day ago|||
SpaceX is too with the Anthropic/Google deal
orwin 1 day ago|||
Not is: might be.
fatata123 15 hours ago|||
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ralfd 1 day ago||
SpaceX will swing wildly in future, also exploding/successful Starship flights and enthusiasm for moon landing/Artemis missions.
bryanlarsen 1 day ago||
Which is true, but silly. SpaceX's rocket business is currently a $4B/year business. SpaceX's $2T valuation has nothing to do with launching rockets, a little bit to do with being an ISP and a lot to do with AI hype.
bigtex 1 day ago|||
Yes, they claim the TAM for AI is 24 trillion dollars. Do with that what you will.
rlt 1 day ago|||
The $2T valuation definitely depends on Starship working well. Orbital data centers have no chance of being profitable otherwise.
manwithopinions 21 hours ago||
The $2T doesn’t depend on anything to do with space. People are investing in Elon, not any specific product or technology. Hence his roll up of X and Xai into SpaceX and Tesla soon too. SpaceX is The Elon Company, not space or cars or AI.

And anyway, orbital data centers have no chance. They’re just like the Mars colony, an Elon boondoggle.

verzali 14 hours ago||
Feels like a bad bet. People are not immortal. What happens if he gets hit by a bus or has a heart attack?
illiac786 9 hours ago||
It’s emotional, people like to have someone to believe in, who turns off their brains a bit. So annoying these pesky brains, always whispering rational things to do. So much more comfortable to just blindly trust into someone.

Funny how the above absolutely does not apply at the local scale. The same people blindly trusting Elon probably don’t trust their neighbors to even hold a parcel for them.

rlt 23 hours ago||
If the price moves down when a Starship test flight doesn't achieve all objectives that's probably a good opportunity to buy. Many people think "rocket go boom, must be bad" but to some extent it's expected during the development phase. They get more useful data about where the limits are when it doesn't work.

Of course there's limits to that, but SpaceX has a lot of cash to absorb failures, unlike in the early days.

raincom 1 day ago||
At least people stop shorting SpaceX on fundamentals. Shorting just increases the momentum.
elzbardico 1 day ago||
QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM
contingencies 1 day ago|
AD TERRAM!
drivingmenuts 1 day ago||
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!
contingencies 1 day ago||
It certainly wasn't a StarCraft or gaming reference, though I'm not surprised it was interpreted that way (personally bowed out of RTS ~C&C1). I do think you've got a good millennial-cultural catch-phrase for the zeitgeist AI datacenter funk there, though!
drivingmenuts 1 day ago||
I wish I could train Claude to end every statement it utters with "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITION PYLONS".

And have it be permanently embedded.

empath75 1 day ago||
The IPO price for SpaceX was _delusional_. The price now is delusional. Especially since it's so dependent on the US government for revenue and he's done everything possible to irritate the party that's about to take over the federal budget.
tombert 1 day ago|
It was insane to me that a company that had less than thirty-billion in revenue was valued at more than a trillion. I'm not sure how the People in Charge didn't call bullshit.
cyberge99 1 day ago|||
There are no people in charge.
ifwinterco 1 day ago|||
The way exponential maths works, if a company really can grow at (for example) 10% per annum then it can grow into what looks initially like a very high PE multiple on current earnings surprisingly quickly.

This is why people sometimes use forward P/E but that does have the obvious drawback of the denominator not actually existing yet.

However with SpaceX the valuation is extreme and also can they grow at that rate for years on end? Potentially not

tombert 8 hours ago||
Reading their IPO prospectus seemed to imply that they planned on getting 100% of the entire AI market.

Considering how far behind Grok is (revenue-wise, but also quality-wise [1]), that seems very unlikely to me, and while this might be overly optimistic I think there's a chance that with SpaceX being public, Elon's drug addiction and pathological lying might catch up with him.

[1] Disclaimer, I've only used the free version of Grok. Maybe the paid one is great but I doubt it's better than Claude or OpenAI and I don't want to give Elon money since he seems to have done a pretty good job buying the executive branch with it.

mrcwinn 1 day ago|
For the sake of clarity, it's well above its historic IPO price, but near or slightly below where it began trading that day once it officially opened.
jeremywho 1 day ago|
Historic IPO price? It opened at $160 10 days ago, did it not? Currently it is below that price. What historic price are you referring to?
kriz9 1 day ago||
IPO price was $135
tcp_handshaker 1 day ago||
Wait for tomorrow...
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