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Posted by speckx 1 day ago

Jobs and Software Is Fucked(urflow.bearblog.dev)
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ChrisArchitect 1 day ago|
Related:

The early hiring funnel is now breaking on both ends

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48620142

VirusNewbie 1 day ago||
I agree that the online hackerrank quizes where it isn't even a video call is dumb because so many people cheat and if you don't, you're at a disadvantage.

Lots I agree with here, but...

> I would promptly remove them from my LinkedIn connections afterwards because I'm exhausted of pointless connections and recruiters.

Why would you do something like this, it's just counter productive. I've had numerous recruiters reach out weeks or months later to say "hey another team is interested", or even when they have moved on to other jobs.

Stop being so bitter you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

quietbritishjim 1 day ago|
I'd suggest not adding recruiters as LinkedIn connections in the first place. I mean, LinkedIn is hardly sacred, but why are you adding people you don't know as a connection?

Recruiters only add you as a connection if they can't afford LinkedIn premium, which is what you need to message people you're not connected to (except for connection requests). That probably means that they're not very successful recruiters.

strobe 1 day ago|||
I heard that recruiters also use amount of connections to filter out candidates, and they probably view it as if you don't have 500-1000 connection probably you just don't fit basic requirements of the the role even with 10+ yoe.

Even is so stupid but looks like in last few years lot of strange metrics like that used more and more.

VirusNewbie 1 day ago|||
I'm talking about recruiters that you talked to throughout an interview loop, not randos.
thelonelyborg 1 day ago||
it is quite dystopic
aryehof 17 hours ago||
Frankly I’m sad to hear it. There are just too many programmers - simple.

30 years ago or so, I was a contractor working on back-to-back 3 to 12 month C++ projects. I would typically get a call one day from a recruiter followed by a phone call (or maybe a quick meet or coffee) with someone technical on the project, and arrive and be in the codebase the next. That day I would get 2 calls about my availability.

There was no sh*t-show of continuous deployment, code reviews (even for trusted internal projects), and scrum-like ceremonies. There was instead version control, periodic tested releases, a weekly update meeting, a Friday team lunch at the pub, and trust.

Too many programmers (sorry err Engineers) - too few jobs, and the enshitification of an industry.

scotty79 1 day ago||
Freelance? Find someone who needs or wants a thing done, but doesn't know how to do it, then do it for them. Take half of the money upfront.
Exoristos 1 day ago||
I'm transitioning to freelance (independent consultant, full stack and Cloud), and I find I'm working alongside AI in business manager's hands. It's an uncanny mode of competition.
em-bee 1 day ago||
most of those who might hire someone because they don't know how to do it are now using AI instead. so that market is shrinking too.
lylejantzi3rd 23 hours ago||
That market is growing because of AI. Everybody I've seen use AI gets to a certain point where it breaks and they don't know how to fix it. They have a choice to make, then: ditch it and pay for real software that works, or pay somebody to fix it. Hopefully, they've used that AI generated software to create enough cash flow to afford somebody to fix it.
em-bee 20 hours ago||
everyone talking about this topic (me included) assumes that this is the case. i have yet to find anyone who is actually hiring people to fix problems the AI created. so far the solution to AI problems seems to be more AI.
5701652400 1 day ago||
agree with that.
SanjayMehta 22 hours ago||
Reading these reports makes me angry and relieved at the same time.

Angry because it feels like such a waste that good developers are getting sidelined due to LLMs in interviews. (And good developers would be likely be better LLM users in the long run.)

Relieved because I got into this industry when Z80 assembler knowledge (from ZX-81 days) gave me a head start back in the 80s, and I quit before I had to suffer interviewees using LLM. Knowing assembly made it much easier to deal with hardware and cranky C compilers back in the 80s.

Now I'm in a complete unrelated "lifestyle business" where I occasionally can use code to optimise my workflow.

micromacrofoot 1 day ago||
If you truly give a shit you have to change and help make the mess less mess. It sucks, it might be worse than it was, but you can't continue giving a shit by not participating. The horse has left the barn on this one.

The frontier model companies could all collapse tomorrow but the tech is not going anywhere.

kittikitti 1 day ago||
I've found that the people working for big brand companies like Blizzard for an extended period of time tend to lose touch. It's very easy to find meaning and purpose when everyone you know loves the products the company you work at produces. They can bring their soul to work and remain satisfied. The reality is that work isn't purposeful by default and we're in a capitalist system where our income is based on exploiting labor and capital.

If you don't love AI, that's fine. Just don't harm yourself because of some hastily formed opinions by grifters. If you refuse to enter the workforce because of a refusal of AI, then you are harming yourself. If your colleagues and friends would rather you live in impoverished conditions than get an AI job, then reconsider whose opinions you value.

testertester00 1 day ago|
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