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Posted by simonpure 1 day ago

SpaceX sheds $400B in market value as debut rally hits reverse(www.ft.com)
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ChrisArchitect 1 day ago|
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48634931
llmslave 23 hours ago||
volatile asset is volatile
thewhitetulip 1 day ago||
It's crazy that Musk is worth a trillion dollar and the 2nd richest person is just 200 Billion dollars.

What's more crazy is that the revenue in no way justifies the trillion dollars valuation of spaceX!

stubish 1 day ago||
On paper. The actual number is how much cash banks will lend him using his SpaceX holdings as collateral. Maybe that is a trillion dollars. Smarter money though? They know that if things go south and they need to collect that collateral, in that situation SpaceX will be worth a lot less than a trillion dollars.
winfredJa 23 hours ago|||
Tesla being worth more than entire auto industry and PE ratio of 350+, i feel like spaceX will do fine in public market.
Grombobulous 23 hours ago||
I basically said a similar thing in another comment, but this is the real problem.

The ultimate power of the modern oligarch is gaining far more wealth than the value their assets bring to the market.

It would be healthier for our society if Tesla’s stock came back to earth to a valuation that made some level of sense for the business that they’re in. Musk would not be so astronomically rich in that case. The same story goes with SpaceX.

We don’t really need to be concerned that mom and pop are going to lose their life savings in their index funds to SpaceX. It’s actually the opposite: it’s more concerning that stocks like SpaceX and Tesla don’t crash down to better reflect reality, and their continued overvaluation serves as a massive transfer of wealth to major shareholders at the top.

I don’t bet on SpaceX stock crashing down anytime soon because the oligarchs who own it have so much soft and hard power to prop it up. Only the salaried employees are going to sell shares, while the biggest owners will just borrow against the collateral.

thewhitetulip 22 hours ago||
> transfer of wealth to major shareholders at the top.

Excellent summary of the apst 25yrs

spwa4 20 hours ago|||
> They know that if things go south and they need to collect that collateral, in that situation SpaceX will be worth a lot less

Yes, just look at the massive US commercial real estate bubble that could never have existed if banks and investors actually did that.

uberex 1 day ago||
Chickens will roost when more of SpaceX is open to the market.
thewhitetulip 22 hours ago||
I doubt. Tesla is still so high!
uberex 22 hours ago||
Relatively speaking :). Put it this way: I wont buy puts.
spwa4 20 hours ago||
... and because Alphabet is a huge investor in SpaceX it was dragged down right along? Is that the story?
chvid 23 hours ago||
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z0ltan 23 hours ago|
The U.S is nothing but an Oligarchy now.
Yizahi 18 hours ago|
Technically it never ceased to be an oligarchy just like all western countries are oligarchies too. People elect some a few of the people on top and then they act on their own absolutely unchecked, plus all those other unelected people ruling us with them. It's a definition of oligarchy. The only partially democratic country in the world is Switzerland, where people actually can vote on a country governance directly and government must comply with results (and not only take it into attention), which is a definition of democracy.