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Posted by ingve 21 hours ago

The Coming Loop(lucumr.pocoo.org)
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sarracin0 12 hours ago|
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nfcampos 20 hours ago||
My own thoughts on this, with examples https://github.com/nfcampos/loop-dev/blob/main/README.md
losvedir 20 hours ago|
Are those your own thoughts? Or Claude's? I tried to read but had to stop a few paragraphs in because of Claude's annoying authorial voice.
nfcampos 20 hours ago||
No, they really are my thoughts, I've been doing this stuff pretty much every day for the past 6 months
jazzypants 20 hours ago||
No offense, but this sentiment is diluted by commits like this:

https://github.com/nfcampos/loop-dev/commit/e28b1fce0078e605...

I assume that GP was just saying that they would prefer to read these thoughts written by a human author (preferably you). I agree.

kzrdude 19 hours ago|||
That's a perfect use case for an LLM: grammar-aware find and replace (spicy find and replace.)
nfcampos 19 hours ago||||
That commit happens to be a find replace because i usually write for my company’s blog (we)
Calavar 19 hours ago||
I would be more willing to believe you only used Claude for minor editing tasks if you disclosed your usage of Claude upfront.
zipy124 19 hours ago|||
This commit seems to mostly be grammar fixes? If someone used a spell/grammar checker it might produce a diff similar to this. Why does the fact it was Claude and not Microsoft Word or other matter in this case?
jazzypants 19 hours ago||
Because Microsoft Word doesn't write blog posts for you

Edit: I just realized that Microsoft Word probably does do that now, and I hate it.

kzrdude 19 hours ago|||
Copilot is the new clippy meme. Copilot is hiding in every MS product and is ready to write an email for you, anytime.
zipy124 19 hours ago|||
Yes but that commit doesn't support the fact that it has written it for the user.
codeDruid 20 hours ago|
Yeah I don't know. Don't get me wrong, the article points makes sense. But sometimes I think that we're going to stay near this current point of productivity for a little while.

Currently my org of 8 people use around 1000 euro worth of tokens per month. We've recently had a discussion near the water-cooler, that if the cost climbs 5x-10x it may be just more worth it to get more developers (we're EU based). While the tools work and are definitely nice, even in our little org with our little budget, using Opus 4.8 we've noticed code quality going down.

If I had to bet money, I'd bet that the models will get 30-50% more nice, around 2x more expensive and we will settle into some mode where we'll use llms for some tasks, manually doing others and calling places focusing on speed at any cost some funny name like "gulags, 996, sweatshops, etc" and collectively try to somewhat avoid those places, which will need to offer a premium to attract talent. Wishful thinking.

erispoe 20 hours ago|
How do you control code quality?
baw-bag 19 hours ago||
The way I answer this question is, I don't because my boss is saying to basically accept whatever LLMs spit out which is fine by me because I have explained the risks of doing this to our only product and it was shrugged off. I am both disgusted and excused and just take the salary.