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Posted by rob 14 hours ago

Elevated error rate across multiple models(status.claude.com)
205 points | 253 commentspage 5
throwaw12 14 hours ago|
Imagine a future where Anthropic holds your company hostage because no one can code properly anymore by hand and demands paying 200% higher price for the usage.

What can your company do?

root-parent 13 hours ago||
>> What can your company do?

Hire some Developers?

throwaw12 13 hours ago|||
Developers who can code without LLMs will go extinct in couple years and there will be legends about them, you should at least have some decent open weight model as a backup
magpi3 13 hours ago|||
There is something to be said for how the technology stack keeps growing for businesses and what this might mean for the future.

Thirty years ago, you had an OS and you installed applications. No problem.

Later, you had to build and use apps on the internet, an infrastructure that is susceptible to DDOS attacks, government firewalls, and other security risks. Still fine, sort of.

Now, you not only have to build apps on the internet, you also have use LLMs to build apps to remain competitive with other developers. Future (human) maintainers of your code might not properly understand how it works, and if the providers of the LLMs screw up or go rogue, you are properly fucked.

There is a dependency/technology stack debt that is creating risks that need to be acknowledged.

zarzavat 13 hours ago||||
Wait a second kiddo, I expect to live longer than that.
w29UiIm2Xz 13 hours ago||||
I'm not sure if I'd want to code without an LLM anymore. That said, there will always be open models.
tovej 13 hours ago|||
I don't plan on using LLMs for programming any time soon.

And I know like one guy who does use them. He's not a developer by trade, he just has to write programs sometimes.

exe34 13 hours ago|||
What exactly is a developer in a scenario where no one can code?
bluefirebrand 13 hours ago|||
As long as I'm alive (and not senile) there will always be at least one developer who can code

I'm not using AI coding tools yet, and even if they force me at gunpoint to use them at work no one can force me to in my spare time

I'm not too worried about the case where no one can code anymore because that will be after I'm dead

claytongulick 13 hours ago|||
I guess that means there will be at least two of us.
exe34 13 hours ago|||
That wasn't the premise of the question.
bluefirebrand 13 hours ago||
My answer to your question is "I don't care, because I'll be dead"
npodbielski 13 hours ago|||
Me?
exe34 13 hours ago||
No one can code. You can code.

Are you no one?

npodbielski 13 hours ago||
Only the Sith deal in absolutes
exe34 11 hours ago||
Sounds like an absolute...
blourvim 13 hours ago|||
I would guess that they would want to at the very least 10x their prices. Remember they need to make up for training, marketing, etc.. and make a big chunk of profit on top of that to justify their trillion dollar evaluation
throwaw12 13 hours ago||
doing 2x 3 times already gets you almost 10x increase
kordlessagain 13 hours ago|||
No need to make up speculative futures based on a company only giving one model to their employees. I use Codex, Antigravity, Claude and GLM-5.2 interchangeably. Any sensible employer will do the same.
cube00 13 hours ago||
> Any sensible employer will do the same.

Hard to do when each individual provider wants to lock your company into multiyear enterprise contracts.

MattGaiser 13 hours ago||
You can still have multiple contracts.
dwa3592 13 hours ago|||
the company will switch to a different LLM vendor??

what does someone do when a certain brand coffee maker keeps breaking; they buy a different brand.

brookst 13 hours ago|||
Hire developers who will be happy to take merely 100% higher rates?

Use an Anthropic competitor?

sam0x17 13 hours ago|||
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tedd4u 13 hours ago||
Won't it eventually be $1,000 or $5,000 a month? $5k a month would still be 97% less than many developers cost.
Espressosaurus 13 hours ago||
How many developers are making 2 million a year?

400k isn’t crazy for the FANG set but it’s still a subset of the developer market and hundreds of thousands of those jobs have been cut in the last few years as they all collectively work to lower SWE pay.

60k a year it needs to be a full irreplaceable part of the infrastructure for I think. There are very few kinds of software that meet that bar right now (certain design tools etc that have no replacement). 12k/year is in the expensive but reasonable for the right tooling category (Matlab etc.).

I don’t know what the future holds. I know the big AI companies are banking on being able to charge for a replacement SWE that works 24/7. Still not convinced these are it yet, as useful as they can be under the right circumstances.

jakeydus 14 hours ago||
Another day, another Claude outage.
impartshadow 13 hours ago||
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halfmatthalfcat 14 hours ago||
Incredible how we can claim productivity increases when its either Claude or Github shitting the bed every other day. It must even itself out to a net neutral gain in the long term.
dpedu 13 hours ago||
I don't understand this comment. At worst, we're just back to the baseline - working without AI help.
halfmatthalfcat 13 hours ago|||
Yes, that's what the comment means.

We are back to the baseline. The availability of our tools isn't adding anything in the long term because the productivity increase we get from the tooling is negated by the time we're back to doing it the old fashioned way due to downtime, so there is no claimed productivity increase espoused by the pontificators of the tooling.

dpedu 13 hours ago|||
This is an argument for returning to living in caves and hunting mammoths for fear that our modern civilization becomes unavailable for a day or two.
halfmatthalfcat 13 hours ago||
I'm down
yubblegum 2 hours ago||
Dating was so much simpler back then, too ..
dakiol 13 hours ago||||
The bunch of MD files in the codebase is becoming "tech" debt. It's just English prose, sure, but thousands of lines of English prose. Terse. Succinct. Difficult (if not impossible) to maintain manually without LLMs. That's not "baseline"
dpedu 13 hours ago||
Developers having a troubled relationship with documentation isn't new.
cromka 13 hours ago||||
At some point it won't be true. Same with handwriting, nowadays I feel like a 7 y/o when I need to write something on a piece of paper...
abroszka33 13 hours ago||||
The baseline is forever gone. Good luck convincing people to contribute to StackOverflow v2 after this.
deaton 13 hours ago|||
With atrophy to our not-AI ability to do things
dpedu 13 hours ago||
I don't buy it. Literacy rates have been increasing even after the invention of text to speech.
DaSHacka 13 hours ago||
> Literacy rates have been increasing

uh

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/09/whats-driving...

https://literacybuffalo.org/2025/01/23/adult-literacy-rates-...

dpedu 13 hours ago||
Both articles use 2017 as the turning point date. TTS is a lot older than that. It's not difficult to find data to fit the desired point if you choose a narrow enough time range. Or location selectivity - both of those are just about the United States.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cross-country-literacy-ra...

spiderfarmer 14 hours ago||
If that 0.07% downtime was holding me back I wouldn't publicly admit that.
maccard 14 hours ago|||
When that downtime happens is way more important than the amount of it. Imagine if your payroll system was down for 8 hours a month, but it just so happened to be the day payroll do their calculations?
armdave 13 hours ago||
Totally. The uptime metrics are deceiving imo. A more useful measure for a productivity tool like Claude Code is uptime during work hours for a given time zone. I strongly suspect at least for the three US time zones, we would be looking at a single nine of uptime for that measure.
secretslol 14 hours ago||||
'Claude for Government' is the only one with 0.07% downtime, claude.ai has 0.89% downtime and claude code 0.74% - imo, that's a lot of downtime!
efficax 13 hours ago||
over a year, 0.89% is around 3 whole days of downtime
secretslol 13 hours ago||
Works out at even more days when you consider working hours. And these downtime events never happen when I'm sleeping, always smack in the middle of the afternoon when I'm working.
brookst 13 hours ago||||
Claude is 0.89% downtime. Getting close to one nine.

There aren't many tools that remain useful at that rate.

mguerville 13 hours ago|||
Business/Office productivity tools can be productive at that rate. Core systems like ERP or arguably CRM can't, but MS Teams is probably already that low, Figma, Canva and several others could absolutely afford to be one nine before it affects their churn materially. I suspect OpenAI and Anthropic make most of their profit on business use cases rather than dev use cases (likely higher revenue but less profit) so this may be what sets the standard of uptime.
selectodude 13 hours ago||||
Heh, I’m 5x more productive 99 percent of the time. That is still a very, very useful tool.
aesthesia 13 hours ago||||
That's two nines. One nine would be 10% downtime.
brookst 12 hours ago||
So 95% uptime / 5% downtime is two nines?
halfmatthalfcat 14 hours ago|||
Gotta keep my 100x developer cred, that 0.07% is everything.
ieie3366 14 hours ago||
Hey you. Touch grass. Go outside. If a minor downtime of a developer tool triggers you, it means you likely have heavy anxiety. Don’t worry about it and calm down.

Anthropic has massive capability issues due to massive user growth. It happens often when EU and US work hours collide. They have smart people working on it. Don’t waste your energy complaining.

Cheers

hk__2 14 hours ago|
It’s 36°C outside, I’d rather stay inside.
root-parent 13 hours ago||
>> It’s 36°C outside

Yeah AI Data Centers do that....

Schiendelman 10 hours ago||
I really wish people wouldn't pretend these actually matter compared to, say, the proliferation of personal internal combustion cars, or shipping using bunker fuel.
iLemming 14 hours ago||
Goddamit, like losing the ability for coding without any Internet wasn't enough, now I have to forget how to code without Claude?

ps. if you say you still capable of developing software without the Internet, you're lying. Perhaps, to your own self.

throwaway2027 14 hours ago||
I'm perfectly capable of programming without internet or AI but I would admit it would take longer and in the modern world we live in it's often not economical to do so. After programming for over 20 years you start to get in that flow automatically at least you used to do so. I don't know if people starting out to program will be able to, but most experienced developers will feel this way I assume.
iLemming 13 hours ago|||
> I'm perfectly capable of programming without internet

Me too, but let's be honest, I'm not talking about "Hello world!" experiments, I'm talking about developing usable software. I'm pretty sure, you won't be patching a Linux kernel driver on your own machine without googling stuff.

I've learned to code years before the Internet, but we've had it for so long, I'm honestly not sure anymore if I'm truly capable of building [real] stuff while offline. And I can't just ignore it, there's a feeling now, that with AI advancements, I may soon no longer be able to code efficiently without any AI.

hgoel 13 hours ago|||
It depends on the language but agreed. If I didn't have internet or AI access, I'd still be able to pull out manpages or dig into source code.

I wouldn't like it and it'd be slower, but I still understand my environment in sufficient depth to work without external info if I absolutely have to. Even with AI, once in a while I ask it to just give me some hints instead of solving something for me, so I'm forced to do the work.

SoftTalker 14 hours ago||
Utter nonsense. If you can't figure out how to run your dev stack on your own computer, you're not worthy of calling yourself a software engineer.
kolbebe 13 hours ago|||
L take. My last 2 companies had their environments spun up in cloud instances.
iLemming 13 hours ago|||
"Running your dev stack" is not the same as "developing [usable] software".
cellover 14 hours ago|
Oh no, I have to write that marketing coordination email myself again!
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