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Posted by earcar 1 day ago

Founding a company in Germany: €9600, 152 days and I still can't send an invoice(paolino.me)
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stackedinserter 22 hours ago|
The saddest thing is that bureaucracy will stay, grow and flourish until the point of breakdown, when the system is not able to pay bureaucrats their salaries.

Or maybe even until they can't physically get to work (read with accent: "that I need to do even if I don't get paid")

CodesInChaos 21 hours ago|
At least on this specific issue, the EU is trying to simplify things by introducing "EU Inc" as a new corporate form. But it'll take several years more to arrive.
HackerThemAll 23 hours ago||
Yeah, for many clerks the purpose of their lives is only to improve and enhance bureaucracy, and make the applicant's life miserable.
martinbfine 22 hours ago||
just hop the border and set up a learing center.
jmonger 23 hours ago||
Wait until you find out about electronic invoicing mandates rolling across Europe.
markvdb 19 hours ago|
Belgium mandates peppol for b2b transactions since January 1st.

This at least carries the potential of simplifying things for honest businesses.

zuzululu 19 hours ago||
honest question, what sane person outside Europe start a business/company in Europe? what possible benefit is there ?
DaedalusII 21 hours ago||
now try closing your company for less than several thousand. lol.

you should consider UK company, enormously better. or sweden. continental EU is mostly backwards.

lloydatkinson 21 hours ago||
It all makes sense when you understand that this is deliberate, to crush the economy and innovation.
yieldcrv 22 hours ago||
The EU is a single market, just form an entity in the quickest and easiest state to form it, open a bank account, payment processor and you’re off to the races, as long as you can accept Euros directly people are fine?

Who are these people that care

“Oh you don’t have a GmBH, oh your share capital is so low ohhh ho ho ho ho”

lifestyleguru 23 hours ago||
The only way to start a company in Germany is Societas Europaea and have lawyer parents. Otherwise don't bother.
RandomLensman 23 hours ago|
How do you create an SE from scratch?
lifestyleguru 23 hours ago||
lawyer parents
RicoElectrico 23 hours ago|
I wonder what's the reason. Poland used to have horrible bureaucracy. You could argue this was due to lack of funds, or communist baggage. Yet, over the last decade digital administration has become a norm, rather than exception.

Germany doesn't have such excuses, yet there it is.

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