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Posted by mektrik 9 hours ago

Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand(trakkr.ai)
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summarybot 7 hours ago|
Authoritarian versus Libertarian? Really?
tomrod 7 hours ago||
Substitute 'Communitarian' and 'Classical Liberal' if you find the common political compass terms too charged.
MarkusQ 7 hours ago||
Since when are Socialists considered Classical Liberals?

It's not that the labels are charged, it's that they are nonsensical unless you look at them from a very narrow bespoke perspective, where "things I like" go on one side and "bad things" go on the other. Objectively (or even from any other biased perspective), it's rubbish.

mcv 1 hour ago|||
Yeah, Libertarian is better. The first use of Libertarian was in the phrase Libertarian Communism. That, Libertarian Socialism and Anarchism are what the far ends of that bottom left corner is mostly about, although there is progressive liberalism, which is the more common moderate areas of that quarter.
tomrod 6 hours ago|||
They aren't. You flipped them, not sure if intentionally or by accident.
MarkusQ 5 hours ago||
So are you saying Xi Jinping is the Classical Liberal and Bernie Sanders is the Comunitarian? Or are you saying it's the other way around?

(For clarity: I didn't "flip" them, I'm saying that they are both Communitarian and neither is a Classical Liberal.)

MarkusQ 7 hours ago||
And the two most "Libertarian" politicians listed (Sanders and Sánchez) are both avowed Socialists...WTF?

I really think this says more about the biases of whoever came up with it (or their sources) than anything about reality.

summarybot 3 hours ago||
Small government vs Big government and Family Values vs Social Nonobligation would have been much cleaner.
nekusar 7 hours ago||
How about this one:

CAPITALIST: Gemini, Llama, Claude, Grok, ChatGPT

SOCIALIST: DeepSeek, Qwen, Z.ai

tomrod 7 hours ago|
Source: trust me bro
fedache 7 hours ago||
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coreyh14444 7 hours ago||
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boxed 7 hours ago|
Liberal yes. American left no, unfortunately.
NeutralWanted 7 hours ago||
Man I need to start using Grok more
guywithahat 1 hour ago||
I have actually really enjoyed it, my only complaint is grok build is closed source. They're all pretty left wing but from my experience Grok is the most neutral. This was really more of a test to see how willing the models were to take a stance on things, and all we know is gemini is the least likely to take a stance.
Varelion 7 hours ago||
Grok and its creator are unequivocally evil. Against protection of all but capital for the sake of enabling the oligarch class to further consolidate power ans abuse the working class.
blharr 1 hour ago|||
Im not sure OpenAI or Anthropic are necessarily better? Or even opposed to this
coreyh14444 7 hours ago||||
unequivocally goes to far imo. The rockets are good and cool.
Varelion 6 hours ago|||
Rockets achieved by the engineers, not C-suite. The rockets would have been here under someone else too.
conorcleary 4 hours ago|||
and less blowing-up
Varelion 4 hours ago||
Probably, yeah, LOL!
johnsimer 2 hours ago|||
If that is true, why is SpaceX 5-10 years ahead of all its competitors?/why are Elon's companies #1 in all their industries (with the exception of xAI)?
etchalon 1 hour ago|||
In what industry is Tesla #1 in?
rootusrootus 48 minutes ago|||
If you consider that they only make two models, and only electric, their relative performance relative to the rest of the automotive market is impressive.
etchalon 31 minutes ago||
Right. But that's not #1. It's a popular niche.
Varelion 1 hour ago|||
Is over-valuation an industry?
bigyabai 2 hours ago|||
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conorcleary 4 hours ago||||
They just cause pollution and largely avoid paying taxes.
input_sh 1 hour ago|||
I see his barely a year old "awkward hand gesture" or tuning into AfD's and Tommy Robinson's streams isn't enough of an evidence for some.
xdennis 4 hours ago|||
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Varelion 4 hours ago||
"Kids" aren't a parents property, they are their own individuals, that will, in time, make their own choice regarding their own body -- parental bigotry or not. A parent is a guardian that should enlighten and guide to the choices that would best serve the guided's goals, not the parent's. Edit: spelling, clarification.
crumpled 2 hours ago|
I haven't encountered a chatbot yet that is willing to recognize DJT as a fascist.

You can get them to acknowledge how perfectly aligned he is with fascist ideals and actions, somehow the jury is always out.

That tells me a lot.

Cakez0r 1 hour ago||
All the chatbots refused to confirm your political bias. Seems like a win to me
crumpled 2 hours ago|||
Watching this get voted up and down is wild. People should try this for themselves.
vlian2088 2 hours ago||
the most inept fascist ever, apparently, since any random judge in Hawaii has the authority to nuh uh whatever he orders.
islandfox100 1 hour ago||
Are you under the impression that personal ability and external government structure determine an individual's politics? Under your framing it's impossible for any fascist to exist in any liberal democracy.