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Posted by bilsbie 2 days ago

The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy(expression.fire.org)
1137 points | 604 commentspage 5
felooboolooomba 1 day ago|
Meta has spent $2B lobbying for Age Verification Tech: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47410870
jjgreen 1 day ago||
Sounds better in German: https://mises.org/mises-wire/papiere-bitte-papers-please
andrewlin247 2 days ago||
privacy online is already largely gone
throwawayffffas 1 day ago||
I love the complete lack of reflection of the top comment in the website.

> All those policies are created with one single goal in mind - to catalogue and enumerate ALL human beings on the planet, not just kids.

1. Your government already has you catalogued, you have a birth certificate, you pay taxes don't you?

2. All these platforms are doing exactly that, do you think you are fooling anyone with that nickname? (come on lets face it you have at least one account with your real name).

wartywhoa23 1 day ago|
... and by all means, we will always persuade the frogs that the temperature in the pot was already pleasantly warm.

- from "The frog cooking scrolls of the grannies"

GL26 1 day ago||
Feels like identity control is not such a bad thing (prevents bots, identity thefts, cyberbullying, ect...). The questions is not "if it happens", its more a "who controls it?". If an NGO controls it, or a company that has "no political or national ownership", or something that is decentralized like BTC is, it's not a problem, but if it's a huge corp that only belongs to one single company which is backed and "piloted" by a government, that's when problems emerge.
1vuio0pswjnm7 1 day ago||
The question no one seems to be asking

Does the www, i.e., its users not its profiteers, need "social media companies"

jauntywundrkind 2 days ago||
Singing: nobody wants this everybody hates you! Governments burning their capital hard to try to prove what tough guys they are against the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace.
fattybob 1 day ago||
Reading the first paragraph and I’m thinking that in the UK that era is already here!
greatgib 2 days ago|
What scary me a lot, is the amount of people here or in real life that are not concerned about that, and that are like "it is to protect the children, so whatever it is, it worth it. And what else we can do?". And often it goes on with things like "anyway, social media are bad, they ruin people even adult, so good thing". Literally they all look like repeating a carefully crafted propaganda without that much more deep thinking.

Basically, to mean it is brain rot. The problem is that it might concern a big part of the population and that is why we have such laws.

To me, it is exactly what was described in G. Orwell "Animal farm" book. Pigs are now in control and big part of the crowd are "sheeps".

Afterward, we always have hard time to understand how people could have let Nazi, Stasi, or Stalin come in power and do such awful things. But it never came in one day, and with the "i don't care, they probably now better" attitude of the current western country populations, you understand easily how all of that could have happened in a first place.

In the recent, and most recent history, let's not forget what happened to Putin's Russia. Russia was opening and on a very good course for individual freedom and rights, then a ex-KGB officer took control of the power and little by little, year after year, suppressed freedom, privacy, and opposition to reach the point of today where the country is a total nightmare for human rights and liberty.

smallstepforman 1 day ago|
Mate, you have to revise your stance on Russia, more people are imprisoned annually in the UK for speaking than people in Russia in a decade. The UK banned RT while you can access any western propaganda outpost from within Russia.

You’re on Hacker News, this website is known for attracting open minded free thinkers that do not fall under the influence of government financed propaganda. Learn and reassess your thoughts.

u8080 1 day ago|||
>you can access any western propaganda outpost from within Russia

You cannot without VPN. Anyway, this stupid polarizing "my cow is dead, but neighbor's two cows dead so I am happy" approach is just sad and enables more govt tyranny globally.

greatgib 1 day ago|||
For the prison it might be true because opponents in Russia are already dead... Like Navalny and the mission in his underwear.
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