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Posted by NeutralForest 6 hours ago

EU to legislate about Chat Control behind closed doors(www.patrick-breyer.de)
522 points | 297 commentspage 3
Argonaut998 3 hours ago|
There is nothing redeemable about this union anymore.
trallnag 2 hours ago||
China, Russia, and friends will provide digital escape hatches for Western cititizens and vice versa it seems
shevy-java 4 hours ago||
We see here how lobbyists undermine democracies.

Amazing how the EU commission does so unashamedly. It's basically the copy/paste system of the USA here. Big money wants laws. They have no shame in buying these laws.

ChrisArchitect 4 hours ago||
Related:

European Commission's Metsola Overrides MEPs to Force Through Chat Control

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48657675

yownie 4 hours ago||
why have we not heard more of a pushback from business and legal entities regarding privileged communication / protection of trade secrets?
hoppp 5 hours ago||
They just can't let it go.

Is it democracy if they keep pushing agendas even if they are voted down?

ttoinou 5 hours ago||
It's an open secret the european union has nothing to do with the will of the people
hhh 4 hours ago|||
plenty of people desire something like this, and 'saving the children' is their genuine intent and desire. Humanity is willing to shoot itself in the foot again and again, there's no need for it to be some shadowy cabal.
constantius 4 hours ago||
Plenty of people do want more surveillance, but that's not why EU politicians are doing this. Seeking to implement surveillance across an entire continent cannot be explained by "the will of the people". Danes might want surveillance for their children, but I can't imagine them lobbying their EU representatives to also protect the children in France as well.
surgical_fire 4 hours ago|||
This is bullshit. The EU parliament is the organ that shot it down so far.

Read the article. It is the national governments pushing this shit. They try to launder if through the EU because passing those legislations locally would likely be very unpopular.

Gingersnap123 5 hours ago||
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asxndu 1 hour ago|
In cybernetics, there is a saying that;

"The purpose of a system is what it does".

By observation, the purpose governments is to run scams. After all, it makes no sense to attribute their purpose to things they consistently fail to do.

Relevant music vide featuring Stafford Beer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqBBNjkAlXM