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Posted by mooreds 6 hours ago

Mag 7 starting to underperform [pdf](www.apollo.com)
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tptacek 4 hours ago|
This is like a straightforward Red Queens Race story, isn't it?
davidpapermill 5 hours ago||
Planned Capex for 2026:

Amazon $200B

MS $190B

Alphabet $175B-$185B

Meta $115B-135B

Danox 5 hours ago|
Apple is nowhere to be found.
davidpapermill 5 hours ago||
$14B (!!!)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-lazy-ai-strategy-could-...

guluarte 5 hours ago||
This feels like telecom "massive demand, bad returns".

If a good enough model can be swapped in every few months, the value moves away from the model and toward cheap inference. That is great for users, but not always great for returns on huge capex.

interestpiqued 5 hours ago|
The only mag 7 that had a shooter chance with models is Google rn so doesn’t seem like there being good enough models will be that negative for mag 7. Might even be better since they are the providers for the inference
int32_64 4 hours ago||
The dumps on memory/hardware stocks when these companies scale back purchasing is going to make Trump's shitcoins look sovereign bonds

-signed a bitter somebody that had to buy a new SD card for my camera last week.

ekjhgkejhgk 4 hours ago||
haha Oracle bleeding money. If AI ended up killing Oracle that would've been so great.
epolanski 4 hours ago||
Not mentioned in the comments but all those companies are taking significant debt and even issuing new shares.

One major part of the investment thesis in these companies were their constant stock buy backs. Now their gargantuan Capex that sees no end but acceleration is back at diluting investors.

I think the companies will keep doing fine, but the financial outlooks are no longer as rosy.

ai-x 3 hours ago||
Completely missing the point of not adding Anthropic, OpenAI, SpaceX.

Mag7 is just an arbitrary list of companies that were coined at a specific time with no rigor.

If you must do rigorous analysis, then just like S&P 500 you need to add drop BigTech / High Growth companies continuously to this Mag7 (or Mag10) and then do analysis

fragmede 3 hours ago||
MU is up like 1,700% since 2024, so yes they are, but "under" is relative.
alecco 1 hour ago||
US Big Tech is betting the house on AI, news at 11.
anonu 5 hours ago|
I guess "nothing lasts forever".
rvz 5 hours ago|
Of course. The rest 'n vest people at FAANG companies will tell you its lasts forever 6 years ago. Now they are scared for their jobs.

This is why we are seeing a correction at those companies, perks and free food going away with constant layoffs and all time low morale.

Now the party is at Nvidia. But I will tell you that that will not last forever either.

Espressosaurus 4 hours ago||
Everything reverts to the mean in the long term.

Maybe even the state of unprecedented relative peace we had enjoyed.

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