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Posted by HumanCCF 22 hours ago

.self: A new top-level domain designed to support self-hosting(hccf.onmy.cloud)
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goldenarm 21 hours ago|
Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it.

I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

mort96 17 hours ago||
A friend almost failed an IT class because his website didn't render at all in IE6. This was during the time of IE9. The teacher just hadn't updated their browser in a long time.

I don't get how you get to be an IT teacher without knowing the most basic troubleshooting steps to get assignments to run.

hilariously 10 hours ago|||
I left community college after a week because my "computer" teacher required us to change our monitors to 640x480 and print out ever step that we completed in things like Notepad or Configuring the Desktop and then every day we'd punch it out and would add it to a three ring binder of all the things we've done.

Full Color.

yoz-y 6 hours ago|||
640x480 in 16 colors is the resolution as it was prescribed in the Bible.
markhahn 20 minutes ago|||
though shalt not wear garments of mixed pallettes
jagged-chisel 5 hours ago|||
Amen
wccrawford 8 hours ago||||
I took a computer class in college (like 25 years ago now?) and corrected the teacher multiple times every class. And it was like 95% things that were in the book that was issued, so I could even point out the page it was on. It was absolutely embarrassing.
Tor3 7 hours ago||
In college I one year had a physics teacher who refused to believe that you could hear the harmonics of a guitar string simply by lightly touching the string at the right place, e.g. in the middle (12th fret) to hear the octave. Nothing could convince him that this was possible. That year was when several of us spent a good part of the week bowling in a nearby bowling hall, either because we didn't have to take the class (the curriculum was years behind what we had already done before college), or the teachers were so incompetent that there was no point attending. Fortunately the other educational years (everything after middle school, that year excepted) were great though.
chasd00 5 hours ago|||
if i may rant, my middle school and high school aged kids have to literally take pictures of their homework assignments with their chromebook camera then put it the pictures in a google slides deck then submit the deck through a form all to just turn in their paper HW assignment! ridiculous.
Aeolun 1 hour ago||
Can’t you just hand it in?
mathstuf 14 hours ago||||
Heh…I once was in a state-level coding event (it was a small portion of a larger competition) where half of the test was turning in code on a CD during the competition, with the written half during the event. My CD was deemed unusable for whatever reason (it had worked on XP and Fedora 6 or 7 at home) and didn't count towards my score. I still got second in the event. I declined to continue because I couldn't trust that the judges would be able judge my submission fairly and that with half of my score missing I still got second that I didn't need to prove anything else at the cost of more after-school practice hours and wrecking my perfect attendance record during my senior year to travel to nationals.
csense 5 hours ago|||
Perfect attendance is not a good goal to aspire to. Kids force themselves (or get forced by parents) to go to school while sick, which is probably bad for their health and also risks everybody else's health.
jon-wood 8 hours ago||||
I dropped out of college (the UK version, I guess equivalent to senior high school in the US) shortly after discovering that the final assessment of my Computing project would be performed by the examiner reading a printed version of the source code, without ever executing it, because the exam board were so scared of examiners computers being destroyed.
mghackerlady 4 hours ago||
When was this? If this was before virtualisation was common I can maybe understand that but any time in the last 20 years is pretty dumb and the last 10 so braindead I question if they would've been able to judge things properly
jon-wood 3 hours ago||
Oh this was in 2000, when virtualisation was only just becoming accessible so I can get of get the justification. It still made the entire exercise in writing some software feel pointless when I knew it would never get executed by anyone but myself.
L_226 3 hours ago||
Reminds me of Lord Vetinari from Discworld, reading sheet music instead of listening to adulterated performances by fat sweaty men squeezing the music through some tubes.

Executing the code in your head removed from the nuances of hardware, CPU architecture and compiler versions seems like a virtuous pursuit (?)

zbentley 2 hours ago||
> Executing the code in your head removed from the nuances of hardware, CPU architecture and compiler versions seems like a virtuous pursuit

…and that’s how we got Java :p

And stuff like Pascal, too, so it’s not all bad.

rogerrogerr 13 hours ago|||
Does high school attendance matter for anything? Genuine question. Always seemed like pre-college schooling always wanted you to think everything was more important long-term than it really was.
toast0 3 hours ago|||
Many states pay school districts based on attendance.

Attendance typically correlates with classroom success.

Attendance avoids truancy proceedings.

One of the kids in my elementary school got a hat for perfect attendance through 6th grade.

I've never seen attendance shown on a transcript though, but you could fill some space on a resume with it, especially if you have the hat to show for it.

rcxdude 2 hours ago||
An emphasis on perfect attendance can be harmful, though, if it means students come in when they are sick and spread it to the rest of class.
misnome 5 hours ago||||
It goes in your permanent Record Of Achievement! I was always told that this would be very a very important set of documents once I left school, and I am sure that I have no reason to doubt their statements!
repeekad 12 hours ago||||
It’s needed to get into college and that’s it, which is needed to get your first maybe second job and that’s it, which is needed to…
71bw 11 hours ago||
...attendance? I landed a spot in likely the best economics uni in Poland while having 52% attendance in my final HS year, out of which perhaps 10% of the absence was due to illness.
Tor3 7 hours ago||
It all depends on the country and the local rules, which can also change from year to year. Attendence didn't matter much, if at all, in my day, but right now it matters. Extremely so. Student's couldn't, until this year (when this was finally revised) even visit the school nurse without getting a "no attendance", which would count negatively with respect to the mandatory attendance requirement for advancing further. And even for receiving the common stipend.
mghackerlady 4 hours ago|||
Not really, but you can get in trouble for truancy if it becomes a big problem (where I'm from, that was 3 unexcused absences or any absences without a doctor's note after 10. In practice, however, this wasn't that enforced)
paulluuk 10 hours ago||||
I assume this was at a highschool and not at university? My IT teacher in highschool was the chemistry teacher, because.. he knew how to use Word, I guess?

He knew we were computer nerds so didn't really care about teaching us (we knew more than him anyway). And we didn't mind that he just sat there drinking coffee and reading a book, as it meant we could just play videogames for an hour. Good times.

Cpoll 17 hours ago||||
I had a similar class where they threatened to fail us if we didn't use Dreamweaver and instead wrote our own html.
HerbManic 17 hours ago|||
Dreamweaver was cool as a beginner because it took a lot of the troublesome parts out of the equation. But it did end up being more of a hindrance than a benefit the further you went in.
mort96 11 hours ago|||
I never understood Dreamweaver. The first thing it asked me when making a new website was ... what the resolution of my user's screen is? I don't know that!
jon-wood 8 hours ago||
Its web development software from the 90s/00s, a period when websites were built by first having a designer meticulously mock everything up in Photoshop on a 640x480 canvas (maybe 800x600 or 1024x768 in later days), that mockup would then be handed over to a web developer (hi, that was me) who would take that mockup, slice it up into a billion little images, and then put them in a wildly complex set of nested HTML tables. The designer would then have a look over it and provide critique on the fact some element was 3px misaligned, or the font size was incorrect.

During this period I was berated by our studio lead for using new fangled technologies like CSS layout that could adapt to different sized screens instead of sticking to the trusty HTML soup Dreamweaver would spit out.

Jeremy1026 5 minutes ago||
Don't worry, designers still complain about something being 3px off, or a font being weight 700 instead of 800.
bandrami 12 hours ago||||
What were these "troublesome parts"? The whole point of HTML's design is that it's incredibly easy for a human to write correctly.
notpushkin 11 hours ago|||
There was a ton of... not exactly footguns, just things to keep in mind if you’ve wanted your site to work as you intended in all browsers. The webcompat nowadays is way better now.

That said, personally I’ve never understood Dreamweaver either. By the time I tried it, I’ve already got used to Notepad++ and writing HTML by hand, so I’ve just treated it as another text editor... and IIRC it just felt way more laggy than Notepad++, with a browser preview panel that took half of my 4:3 display. Maybe I’d discover some cool features if I’ve spent some more time in it? I dunno.

lolc 7 hours ago|||
> The whole point of HTML's design is that it's incredibly easy for a human to write correctly.

A lot of people (me included) used text editors to write HTML. The process was not easy, and the results mostly not correct.

HTML at the time was intended as an application of SGML. This is the first example of HTML from RFC 1866 that laid out HTML 2.0 in 1995:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
    <title>Parsing Example</title>
    <p>Some text. <em>&#42;wow&#42;</em></p>
Using an HTML editor was required if you wanted to get anywhere near that standard.
bandrami 7 hours ago||
> HTML at the time was intended as an application of SGML

Worse, it was an extended superset (ha!) of SGML. At least 20 years ago, SGML::Parser would reject some valid HTML documents.

That said, it was really easy to type correctly in a text editor (especially compared to actual SGML), particularly one that indented and matched tags for you.

reddalo 11 hours ago|||
Just like AI vibecoded websites... Good luck understanding the code when the AI bubble explodes and you can't afford the insane price that AI will have by then.
moduspol 3 hours ago||||
Hmm. Dreamweaver must be what the cool kids were using instead of Frontpage.
bowersbros 10 hours ago||||
I had a teacher who told us to make a website using Powerpoint..

Turns out you save save as HTML and any links you put between slides become anchor tags.

Pretty neat, but hurt my soul to have all my classmates do that

layla5alive 16 hours ago||||
Was that class taught by a certain woman who had a business making websites, per-chance?
dcow 16 hours ago||
You just described my teacher, and I’m fairly certain we didn’t go to the same middle school.
arsenicwater 17 hours ago|||
Were they paying for the Dreamweaver licenses?
anon7000 14 hours ago|||
When I had web design a bit after 2010, they still used Dreamweaver and yeah you could get a license for free via the university. That’s pretty normal (eg giving you a Visual Studio license, Office, all that). It was more crazy that the course was so incredibly basic (nothing more than static page building in dreamweaver) at this college compared to the other one I later transferred to
nekusar 17 hours ago|||
Please. Universities have students by the short and curlies. They can academically do basically whatever they want, and fail you for not complying. Professors can even demand their book be purchased, and fail for not buying the book.

Most universities are unethical shitholes that can do basically whatever they want to gatekeep a diploma.

dcow 16 hours ago||
It’s getting so bad. My wife is in a remote school where they fail students occasionally to squeeze a little extra $$ out of them.
what 16 hours ago||
I’m sorry your wife failed some classes, but it’s probably not because the school wants some extra money.
high_na_euv 7 hours ago|||
How are you so sure?

There is so much shady things about academic env that it doesnt sound scary

Ive witnessed situation where "hard" prof was teaching and many ppl failed, and then thry received "easy" prof and they passed

But they had to pay for exams and retake, etc

picofarad 13 hours ago|||
They didn't say that.
mort96 11 hours ago||
They did seem to think that it's a problem for schools to fail students.
necovek 5 hours ago||
They didn't say that either.

What they did say is that the school sometimes fails students to get more money — supposedly implying that this was not because they did not meet the passing criteria.

This does not preclude failing students when they deserve it.

It is ok to question of what makes them believe they would have passed the exams without this financial motivation for the school, but they were pretty clear IMO.

nekusar 4 hours ago||
Lets use names.

Western Governors University. Online 4 year degree. Classes are passed when you pass the "high stakes" (read: proctorio test). This means if you know the material, then you can pass a class in 1 day.

HOWEVER, when you do your final test, they only tell you pass or fail. They do NOT show you what questions you got right or wrong. If you fail, you have to wait 5 days and go through professor hoops. Of course, you naturally never actually talked to the prof. Its all online through ZyBooks.

But WGU benefits on failing people, and by hiding what you failed at. Because the longer you attend, the more they charge. Their response is basically "Get Gud Scrub but we're not gonna tell you how".

JimDabell 11 hours ago||||
During the time of Internet Explorer 9, it was surprisingly common for people to still be using Internet Explorer 6. This was often out of their control, for instance if they had intranet sites that required Internet Explorer 6, or if they were stuck on an old version of Windows because they had outdated hardware.

Later versions of Internet Explorer had compatibility mode, but it often wasn’t enough to get things working, especially if there was ActiveX involved or the security policies were restrictive.

Schools were especially prone to this due to their limited budgets among other reasons, and IT teachers weren’t normally the decision makers who could do anything about it. You shouldn’t assume that a random IT teacher had the authority to spontaneously upgrade a school computer that needs to be used for things besides that one student’s assignment.

mort96 11 hours ago||
I will, however, assume that an IT teacher has the ability to recognise, "this isn't working because I'm using an ancient browser". If the teacher is completely unable to use a less ancient browser, the requirement for the project to work on IE6 should be clearly stated, which it was not.

However in this case, my friend just helped the IT teacher install Google Chrome on his computer and showed that the site rendered fine there. I don't know what sort of policies were in place but there were evidently no technical measures implemented to prevent people from installing a modern browser.

exceptione 9 hours ago||
I think your friend might have used portableapps.com, they offer many types of browsers . These programs are packaged to install under a restricted account, without requiring admin rights.
mort96 9 hours ago||
And the IT teacher could have done the same, if he was competent.
dosman33 4 hours ago||||
Those that can, do - and those that can't, teach.

Teaching is rewarding which is why people do it, but you're asking them to take less pay for what is often a harder job - convincing kids to learn something when they have dozens of other things competing for their interest. The math aligns on the side with the teacher having the knowledge you would expect in this scenario - with a fair number of teachers not as much knowledge as one would hope they would have. On the students side, if they are bright then this is a soft-skill learning opportunity - how to navigate knowing more than your superior to the benefit of you both.

OrsonSmelles 2 hours ago||
Surely you could have made essentially the same point without regurgitating one of the most perniciously derogatory lines ever concocted to describe teaching?

All of the market forces you describe are real, but they are partly sustained by cultural templates that make teaching a low-status job among those with technical qualifications and lead to an assumption that every teacher is either (a) internally motivated and doesn't "need" competitive compensation or (b) a washout from a more prestigious track and doesn't "deserve" competitive compensation. This affects administrators, policymakers, voters, and teachers themselves, giving us the status quo where teachers are paid and treated like shit (ask a K-12 educator about the most psychotic parent they met this year and whether admin had their back) so that even many people who love teaching gradually evaporate out of the field if they can.

I suppose I'm not even arguing that the material result is much different than you describe it, just that it's lazy, amoral thinking to frame it as a market quirk or the immutable nature of teaching rather than a slow-motion sociocultural trainwreck over which we can exercise some iota of agency. (One such iota might be to simply not say "those who can..." in earnest ever again.)

mghackerlady 4 hours ago||||
I'm lucky both of my schools IT teachers were actually competent, they were both technically business teachers but were good with code.

That first teacher died shortly after, she had terminal breast cancer. I miss her a lot

lovich 11 hours ago||||
Tenure. Or at least that was my experience with my comp sci teacher who required that we gave him printed out programs for our homework and then tossed them into the trash while making eye contact with you and gave you a grade later.

The schools admins told me he had tenure so there was nothing I could do.

Didn’t take me a whole year before I switched majors.

techpression 13 hours ago|||
It's a built-in secret part of the teaching for any job where you interact with customers, they don't upgrade and they have no troubleshooting skills.

Or just ineptitude, but I'm hoping for the former.

AFF87 20 hours ago|||
What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP
captn3m0 20 hours ago|||
10% apparently for .tk. I also remember .tv windfall, which is 8-9% of their GDP.
tyre 19 hours ago|||
And the .sy boom until startups got enough heat for, you know, funding the Assad regime.
RobotToaster 19 hours ago||
Apparently nobody cares that .af is now funding the Taliban
yieldcrv 18 hours ago|||
The terms of using that tld say it must comply with Sharia law

pretty strict and apparently the Minister of that agency doesnt care that .af is a domain hack for “as fuck” in the west

aussieguy1234 18 hours ago||
In other words, he doesn't give a fuck
foxylad 16 hours ago|||
Perhaps he does - dontgive.af does not resolve.
ShinyLeftPad 14 hours ago||
1. Be Sharia law

2. Sell domain name that's against Sharia law

3. Retake it back when someone buys it, because it's against the law

4. Repeat and profit

rezonant 17 hours ago|||
yeah it was right there
Gagarin1917 14 hours ago|||
What website/service actually uses that?
progval 13 hours ago||
A Mastodon instance used it: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/12/24071036/queer-af-mastodo...
RobotToaster 7 hours ago|||
I thought that ended up being because the registrar didn't pay it's bill to the Afghan government?
BLKNSLVR 12 hours ago|||
During Pride Month?!?
artursapek 18 hours ago|||
The .ai TLD is some tiny island with a few thousand people
gerdesj 18 hours ago||
.io is (British) Indian Ocean (Territory).
dcow 16 hours ago|||
I always thought these TLDs were a flight risk to be used in any serious capacity. What if the random state decides you/your business are in violation of [whatever] and kick you off?
kamma4434 12 hours ago|||
I seem to remember bit.ly had some issues when turmoil happened in Libya
reddalo 11 hours ago||||
Notion just migrated from their Somali domain to a normal .com
botfriendsarent 1 hour ago||||
What if they sent out a hit squad to your house?
sneak 9 hours ago||||
My latest domain (five chars!) that I am actually using recently went down because my registrar is (was?) in Gaza.

The registry thankfully was able to sort it out and I was able to get it back and registered with a regisrar not currently being actively genocided.

I felt like a real dick, emailing people in Gaza in 2026 how to renew my domain.

vasco 15 hours ago|||
What if an elephant steps on the power cable to the server room?
aloisklink 12 hours ago||
The owners of `queer.af` thought that AF only meant “as f*ck”, without realizing that AF also happens to the be the ISO 3166 code for a country controlled by the Taliban, who didn’t like their domain name [1].

Brits that had `.eu` domains lost their domains due to Brexit [2] (unless they had some other EEA ties).

And if the Chagos deal goes ahead [3] and the British Indian Ocean Territory ceases to exist, then all `.io` domains might disappear too (although considering that `.su`/Soviet Union domains are still a thing, they probably would have stayed around).

[1]: https://www.404media.co/taliban-shuts-down-queer-af-domain-b...

[2]: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/registering-and-renewing-eu-doma...

[3]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9m47y1ez2o

Symbiote 11 hours ago|||
Assuming the British/American air base remains on some agreement with the Mauritian government, then the Chagos Islands may remain as a special territory of Mauritius, justifying the continual existence of an ISO 3166 code for it.
reddalo 11 hours ago|||
>Brits that had `.eu` domains lost their domains due to Brexit

Ouch, that must've hurt. Brexit is the most stupid thing that Britain has ever imposed on itself.

artursapek 16 hours ago|||
haha yeah I've bet the last 12 months of my career on a .io
DonHopkins 19 hours ago|||
At least https://tcl.tk redirects => https://www.tcl-lang.org/
Peacefulz 8 hours ago|||
I was hoping to see the classic doctor redirect banner when I hit that link. Still so very cool that they kept their domain active this whole time!
mghackerlady 4 hours ago|||
that's the first thing I thought of when I saw .tk. I may just be too tclish, however
preisschild 19 hours ago|||
Core memory unlocked

Not enough allowance to fund a .com domain, had to use freenom / tk + cloudflare for my first years of self hosting

cj 19 hours ago|||
Double unlock.

In the mid 2000’s, I moderated a domain name discussion forum in exchange for free hosting. “X forum posts per month = x gb of bandwidth”

My goal was to post enough for them to give me WHM access so I could try to resell it.

Those were the days.

dinkleberg 19 hours ago||
Those were the days indeed. A big part for me is probably because I was a teen at the time with little responsibility, but getting to be a part of the wild west days of the internet was a magical experience.
cj 19 hours ago||
Magical indeed!

I once mailed $70 cash (multiple months of allowance) to someone to code a MVP of something I wanted to build.

They ripped me off and disappeared.

And… that’s when I decided I needed to learn to code!

s-skl 18 hours ago|||
Somewhere out there is a developer telling this exact same story. ‘I once agreed to build an MVP for a kid who promised to mail me cash. Never showed up. And THAT’S when I decided to get a real job.’
cj 18 hours ago||
Except I mailed the cash in advance! It’s okay, it was probably another 14 year old.

My parents were not happy when I told them I sent cash to a stranger. I remember having to do it in secret because they were very not okay with the idea that you can meet strangers online. Hah.

bsammon 12 hours ago||
I think they're describing a scenario where the cash was stolen by a postal worker or for some other reason didn't make the full trip.
olmo23 11 hours ago|||
I once got half a bitcoin on IRC for coding up a website scraper.
hahahaa 15 hours ago|||
In my case, ignorance unlocked. I never heard of tk and I remember 36k modems so old enough.

I think reason is I went to work, slung .NET and didn't think much about computers otherwise except occasional reading some C++ books for "fun".

preisschild 7 hours ago||
> In my case, ignorance unlocked. I never heard of tk and I remember 36k modems so old enough.

Might be too old then. I used my parents speedy ADSL modem (4mbit/s down, 1mbit/s up) :D

necovek 5 hours ago||
Probably: I similarly go back to 2400bps modems (9600 and 14400 when dial-up internet showed up here — 33.6k was the time of soft/winmodems other than the ultra expensive US Robotics ;)), and I skipped the .tk domains too — probably already employed and in possession of 10 .org/.net domains by then.
glenstein 16 hours ago|||
I remember that. The one thing I would add is I think the usage was much more general purpose. "Free stuff" sites were a big deal and huge source of traffic and .tk was widely shared on those. You could have a banner with ads and have the domain for free.
victorbjorklund 7 hours ago|||
RIP .tk. Those were the days.
southforgeai 5 hours ago|||
Wow this brought back a flood of memories. I'll never forget spinning up lycos and geocity sites with .tk domains
cellu 5 hours ago|||
those were the days!!
znpy 12 hours ago|||
I still have a .tk domain, paid since 2008, because it was the only one with my surname available.

Haven’t had much issues but surely if could go back and i’d pick a different tld.

tamimio 19 hours ago|||
tk and cc, the domains i used to use for php reverse shell haha, bring back memories!
paxcoder 20 hours ago||
>One Person, One Subdomain
singpolyma3 19 hours ago||
Indeed. That's the necessary
HumanCCF 19 hours ago||
Yes, one of the key principles we follow is that all the perks we aim to provide must come with some limit to prevent abuse.
vessenes 20 hours ago||
Hi there. I've done a bit of work on specifying human-centric identity goals for the internet over the last 10 years. May I suggest you look at Microsoft Vega? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/vega-zero-know... (I have no affiliation).

In brief, I think they aim to solve the most important needs for online identity-gated services in a maximally private way.

For instance, I'd like to see .self offer the following: a single domain to any person in the world with identity blinded. I can imagine two 'tranches': say xxx.v.self for 'verified' and xxx.u.self for 'unverified'.

Both would use a Zero Knowledge proof to confirm they had not already registered a domain; verified would register with you guys or a data broker some PII in case it was needed for verification / checks / etc, while unverified would maintain the promise of one domain = one person, but not allow the TLD or registrars to be able to unblind which person it is.

Use cases like this would be really fantastic. And, obviously could be tested out and tried on a normal domain name while you make your pitch, and put in for the auction / however ICANN is currently managing TLD launches.

HumanCCF 20 hours ago||
Please submit this to us via our contact form, we will need lots of community input! https://hccf.onmy.cloud/get-involved/
quotemstr 20 hours ago||
It is good that Microsoft Vega is popularizing zero-knowledge identity-based attestations. It's unfortunate that they're doing so in a relatively inflexible way.

I wish the Vega people had oriented their work around general-purpose zkVMs instead of application-specific ZK circuits. The latter is a fleeting efficiency win; the former is a permanent flexibility advantage. ZK-based privacy advocates shouldn't over-index on proof performance on today's systems when zkVM systems have been making multiple-OOM performance improvements over the past couple of years.

IOW, with Nova, the Vega people are trying to do something very clever (just as the BBS+ people are trying to do something very cleaver) that general-purpose compute wins have made unnecessary.

Something like RISC Zero will let you run arbitrary Rust code under zero knowledge in a few hundred milliseconds with little fuss. Nobody appreciates that identity verification is one special case of a vast set of useful applications enabled by widespread adoption of a ZK compute platform.

nl 16 hours ago|||
Disagree with this.

RISC Zero is useful for crypto use-cases: Other people need to verify an exact program was run.

The identity use case is about connecting sources of trust (document issuers) with consumers of that trust ("this is a real person") in ways that don't release more than the minimum information required ("the passport office has signed that this is a real person so we can trust that").

Single purpose circuits make a lot of sense for this - there is just no need to a full ZK RISC-V VM for this use case.

quotemstr 14 hours ago||
RISC Zero verifies that an exact computation was performed. What would be the point of the system otherwise? If you're starting from this incorrect premise, you're going to arrive at an incorrect conclusion.

> Single purpose circuits make a lot of sense for this

No, they don't. They lock your system into a single set of trade-offs without an advantage to offset it. They're premature optimization. How do you think ZK systems can be made resilient to cloning attacks without hardware locking if your ZK vocabulary is limited to stupid BBS-style selective disclosure and nothing else?

nl 3 hours ago||
> if your ZK vocabulary is limited to stupid BBS-style selective disclosure and nothing else

I don't understand what "BBS-style" means in this context, but selective disclosure is exactly what the requirement is.

vessenes 16 hours ago|||
Can you talk more about RISC Zero? Does it require a TEE of some sort? I had trouble finding a quality mid-detail spec of how it works; lots of marketing materials basically.
quotemstr 14 hours ago||
zkVMs (of which RISC Zero is one example) do not require a TEE. That's the whole point: the privacy properties come out of the math. Basically, nowadays, once you and I can agree on the text of a program, you can run the program on your private inputs and produce a number that proves to me that you actually ran this specific program and not some other.

For example, age verification: I can run a program that takes a signed time-stamp and an officially-signed birth certificate and produces a yes/no "over 18" boolean, then prove to you I actually ran this program, not just "return true", but WITHOUT revealing the birth certificate.

It's a really neat facility that too few people are thinking about. We've had zero knowledge systems for a few decades now, but until now, each one has been a special bespoke mathematical object that would take years to develop. Over the past year or two, we've 1) made the things 1000x faster, and 2) made it possible to write arbitrary code under zero knowledge instead of having to make each ZK system a PHD thesis.

Others say that zkVMs are pointless because they're less efficient than these bespoke mathematical objects. Yes, they are. So what? The flexibility is worth it. Others say that zkVMs came out of Etherium, so they're only good for "crypto" stuff. False. Sure, it's the Etherium people who did a lot of foundational research into efficient zkVMs. We owe them a debt of gratitude, because they made a new kind of CS object that's going to be useful for tons of things not tied to Etherium or web3 in any way.

Anyway, if you want to get a feel for fully programmable ZK systems, check out https://noir-lang.org/, a programming language for ZK programs (not a zkVM, but same UX). Or https://github.com/a16z/jolt, which lets you run normal Rust under zero knowledge.

Today, you can write normal-looking code and have it execute under zero knowledge, and, importantly, efficiently. You literally couldn't do this two years ago, and it changes everything.

miki123211 12 hours ago|||
What does require a trusted computing platform, however, is ensuring that the same program isn't being executed millions of times per second to send millions of different ZKPs to different parties.

ID verification is not enough, you also need some way to prevent one malicious user from re-selling the same ID to millions of others. Without ZKPs, you know what document the user is trying to sign up with, so you can rate-limit that document. With ZKPs, however, you need those rate limits to exist somewhere else.

ptsneves 10 hours ago||
Yeah, this goes back to the blind spot we technical people have: Solve people/social issues with technological enforcement.
HumanCCF 11 hours ago|||
Please get in touch with us via our contact form, we will need collaborators of all kinds and the human validation problem is going to be the hardest technical challenge to solve. We could use your help! https://hccf.onmy.cloud/get-involved/
anilgulecha 17 hours ago||
The "one free domain per person" isn't the interesting part really - that will be hard to police unless domain name is a function of ID proof (avoids squatting).

0) The actual intersting part of a new TLD can be growing reputation by post-facto taking away a domain without recourse in case of squatting. Instead of adversarial takedowns (which produce false positives as noted), let anyone challenge an inactive domain in the first year or two.

1) If they can figure out a mechanism for moving a domain from "assigned" -> "squatted".

2) Domain must match (or derive from) a verified identity - e.g. your domain is a hash/slug of your government ID. Makes squatting structurally impossible because you can't claim someone else's name / gov (Sign in with passkeys linked to a national ID).

3) Proof of human effort, reduced with time - require periodic renewal with proof-of-use (DNS TXt updates, through a flow hard to automate).

4) Kill speculative market - domains are non-sellable and non-transferable - always go back to the free pool, and stay there for 30 days mandatorily.

Some mix of these could be the right structure for a trule high-reputation, free domain.

ipaddr 17 hours ago||
Sounds like a bad domain for self hosting. You have to update txt records randomly and your domain can be taken for whatever reason. Whatever value you build goes away if you are inactive. You cannot transfer ownership killing any value you added.
anilgulecha 16 hours ago||
Hence the "in the first year or two". Some more human effort to showcase proof early on, then the domain is solidified for you like iwth any other registrar. This is something like captcha/bcrypt - a single instance isn't a burden, but doing it at scale is costly.

> You cannot transfer ownership killing any value you added

I think this is by design. The domain should be for personal use - hence free.

HumanCCF 14 hours ago||
Exactly this, the goal is to design a TLD according to human-centered principles. That is, we are assuming (and enforcing) that every endpoint using this domain will be some relatively small-scale environment for personal use. This is what will allow us to provide a lot of neat functionality but only at that scale.
BuyMyBitcoins 17 hours ago|||
I dislike the term “domain squatting”. It should be called “domain scalping”.
nonethewiser 16 hours ago|||
Or domain ownership.
koolala 15 hours ago|||
It isn't scalping if your actually using it. It's easy to spot a scalping site since its just an advertisement to buy the domain.
mfru 8 hours ago||||
i don't like normalizing people hoarding things they don't need in order to sell them for way higher prices to other people that do, do you?
bandrami 6 hours ago|||
What if it's a domain I just don't want anybody to use?
Bjartr 5 hours ago||
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thegrimmest 2 hours ago|||
Trouble is that we live in an ecosystem, and "hoard the maximum you can defend, not the minimum you comfortably need" is an optimal behaviour emergent from the system.

An ecosystem with an under-exploited niche will eventually produce the behaviour that fills the niche. It's a self-optimizing system. None of this is fundamentally escapable as long as we are living organisms competing for finite resources.

bottled_poe 15 hours ago|||
Or domain leasing.
MagicMoonlight 11 hours ago|||
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tepitoperrito 8 hours ago|||
These ideas are gold! Thanks for sharing. I'm gonna noodle on an unholy mix of 2) and 3) since my dynamic DNS provider just asks that you login once every 30 days and a hash of a (valid) state ID or DL would be an acceptable burden I feel for issuing a domain (or subdomain even).
_kb 10 hours ago|||
.id.au already has some similar requirements for associating a domain with a real world (human) identity: https://www.auda.org.au/au-domain-names/the-different-au-dom...
interloxia 9 hours ago||
Also .net.au and .com.au are not available for personal use.
qq66 12 hours ago|||
The much simpler way to avoid squatting is to make .com domains cost $200 a year. This will instantly end the vast majority of domain squatting on the .com TLD and if people can easily get the .com they need for their business then the other TLDs are not going to have much squatting activity.
oarsinsync 8 hours ago|||
> The much simpler way to avoid squatting is to make .com domains cost $200 a year

A monopolist hiking prices to this extent will likely see legal action against them. That's a 20x increase you're proposing.

It's also unlikely to have a material effect. .com used to cost $75 a year back in the day, and that didn't stop squatters, and high value domain transfer sales. $75 in 1990s dollars is about $150-$190 today.

zelphirkalt 10 hours ago||||
How does this lend itself to self-hosting then? I think few people will pay that much to self host.
schrodinger 12 hours ago|||
I don't get it. How do you handle 10k people wanting, say, garden.com, without a free market?
markhahn 16 minutes ago|||
how about make it round-robin, so all 10k of them get a fair slice of traffic? ;)
mfru 8 hours ago||||
the most fair distribution for limited sought-after resources that are inconsequential (like domain names) are raffles. let people apply in a 4-week window and then randomly assign it to one of the applicants.

then don't allow reselling, just allow giving it back and do a raffle again

prmoustache 11 hours ago|||
first served or random from a waitlist are other options.
jurgenaut23 14 hours ago|||
I am probably missing something, but how DNS TXT updates can be made difficult to automate?
anilgulecha 14 hours ago||
We can get creative. quick ideas: Send it by printed post. pass it around people to people. an email needs to be added in with some process, and can only get one TXT update value a week.

Many ways of adding friction to obtaining the updatable value - which a human owning a domain would be happy to do, but a squatter would not want to.

szszrk 12 hours ago||
> Send it by printed post

that's how one of my local companies tries to force clients in. They removed auth code from their web panels and introduced complex snail-mail procedure.

That was clear signal to run, but it took me 6 months to do just the domain transfer.

jagged-chisel 5 hours ago||
> We will send you an auth code via paper mail. The code expires in 30 minutes.
yearolinuxdsktp 7 hours ago||
#2, name matching valid government ID excludes trans people who have not yet legally changed their name. Same reason they can’t get a Meta Verified status, even if paying. Thanks technology for keeping things accessible to everyone!</s>
greyface- 21 hours ago||
https://hccf.onmy.cloud/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/dot-self....

> Everyone entitled to a subdomain at no cost

How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is this a loss leader for other services? Are you operating on a 100% donation model?

> No parking, squatting, or reselling

How do you plan to tell the difference between a parked/squatted domain and one in legitimate use but offering no public-facing services?

HumanCCF 20 hours ago||
> How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue? Is this a loss leader for other services? Are you operating on a 100% donation model?

We plan on operating the domain as a public good and are actively seeking sponsors to help fund us. Think of it as a similar model to ISRG and LetsEncrypt.

> No parking, squatting, or reselling

Our rule of one person per subdomain will hopefully prevent this at scale, though it will admittedly be more difficult to examine any particular domain so closely. We may have to implement some type of heartbeat where the owner of said domain has to respond within a certain amount of time.

SahAssar 20 hours ago|||
> Think of it as a similar model to ISRG and LetsEncrypt.

In that case it was started by an institution (mozilla) with a lot of heft in the area (mozilla's CA program is one of the most broadly used) and was backed by other orgs (google) that had a vested interest in it's success. I'd be interested to hear which potential sponsors you see in a similar situation here?

> rule of one person per subdomain

What is the plan to (without costly overhead or cost to the end user) validate who is an actual person? Even large corporations with loads of resources have problems with this without resorting to treating it as if a person equals a credit card number.

HumanCCF 19 hours ago||
> In that case it was started by an institution (mozilla) with a lot of heft in the area (mozilla's CA program is one of the most broadly used) and was backed by other orgs (google) that had a vested interest in it's success. I'd be interested to hear which potential sponsors you see in a similar situation here?

We are reaching out to companies who operate in the self-hosted space, academia, ISPs, registars, as well as digital rights orgs. We believe they would be aligned with this mission and ultimately benefit from such a TLD existing!

> What is the plan to (without costly overhead or cost to the end user) validate who is an actual person? Even large corporations with loads of resources have problems with this without resorting to treating it as if a person equals a credit card number.

There are a few emerging technologies we are evaluating to help with this but have not settled on one just yet. Whatever we choose, we will start small and go from there. Worst-case scenario, we start with the credit card approach and iterate. This will ultimately all be a part of the evaluation process we go through with ICANN.

SahAssar 18 hours ago|||
To be honest it feels like these answers boil down to "we feel it'd be nice if this existed but we have no actual answers as to how to get it done".

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To stick with your comparison: when letsencrypt and ISRG launched they had actual answers for how to deal with the hard challenges in their space:

A) how to get included in a trust roots (crossigning with IdenTrust at first and the knowledge and expertise of how to get included in the longer term)

B) Automated domain validation in a standardized way (ACME)

C) Long term commitments of sponsorships to ensure people could trust it would stick around

---

I wish you the best of luck, but I think this might have needed to bake a bit longer before publicizing.

DonHopkins 19 hours ago|||
You need to find a benevolent selfless soul who will sponsor you.
hk__2 7 hours ago||||
> Our rule of one person per subdomain will hopefully prevent this at scale

No it won’t. Spammers will just pay thousands of random people in poor countries to create their domain.

Galanwe 9 hours ago||||
> We may have to implement some type of heartbeat where the owner of said domain has to respond within a certain amount of time.

A domain squatter is in an easier position to automate that than an amateur to not forget to respond.

al_borland 20 hours ago|||
How is one person per subdomain enforceable? How is a person uniquely identified and tracked?
dom96 20 hours ago||
My guess is by using ID verification similar to how I do it on https://onlyhumanhub.com/
SahAssar 20 hours ago|||
So you have just built a wrapper around https://passportreader.app/, which itself is reading NFC enabled ID/passports from specific countries. The coverage map is here: https://passportreader.app/coverage.

Might be good to know that even in the US this approach would only work for ~50% of people, since a lot of people don't have passports. In most countries this does not work at all, since they don't issue NFC enabled ID/passports.

teraflop 18 hours ago|||
The "how it works" page for that website says that the ID data is "digitally signed by the issuing government". But there doesn't seem to be anything in the docs about how to get or verify that signature. So it seems like they are just asking users to trust them to do the verification.
notpushkin 11 hours ago|||
> The coverage map is here: https://passportreader.app/coverage

Oh, cool! Russia is not on the list. Another service that excludes me just becasue I got lucky with the colour of my (NFC-enabled, biometric) passport.

On a less bitter note, I don’t think it’s that hard to build biometric passport validation. Face matching would be another thing, but for unregulated industries I don’t think you’ll need that, so why not grab some library from GitHub and be in control of the whole process? (You would still need to handle people without biometric passports somehow, of course.)

kokanee 20 hours ago||||
I'm curious about how this works, but it doesn't look like I can find out without creating an account. I see that it says "Link your existing social accounts to prove you're not a bot." How does having social media accounts prove I'm not a bot?
AnthonyMouse 19 hours ago|||
> How are you going to pay for the (substantial) cost of running a TLD without registration fee revenue?

Is it actually a substantial expense? The TLD itself only has to publish the nameserver records, which generally have a TTL of about a day. A DNS response is a few hundred bytes. Big DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare would make requests for every actively used domain every day, but then cache them. Smaller providers wouldn't cache as well but also wouldn't each request every domain every day. For e.g. a million personal domains, ballpark estimate is somewhere in the few TB a month of traffic. Maybe a little over personal hobby project money but definitely not outrageous for a small non-profit organization.

> How do you plan to tell the difference between a parked/squatted domain and one in legitimate use but offering no public-facing services?

This is the easy one. Squatters buy domains because they want to sell them. To sell them they have to make it publicly known to prospective buyers that the domain is available for sale. So then if anyone lists the domain for sale anywhere, you make them prove that they own it (which any actual buyer would also have to do in order to not get scammed) and when they do the domain is forfeit.

It's kind of sad that we don't do that for all domains. Domain squatters can go to hell.

greyface- 19 hours ago|||
Much of the cost here comes from compliance with the ICANN gTLD program structure, not from running the underlying technical infrastructure (which is not limited to DNS - you also need EPP/RDAP/etc). See https://www.icann.org/en/registry-agreements for (hundred+ page) documents outlining registry responsibilities. Registries can outsource some of this to an ICANN-accredited "registry service provider", but should expect to pay upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly for the privilege.
miki123211 12 hours ago||||
You can't do it in the general case.

Most TLDs need to allow domain transfers because projects do genuinely change ownership sometimes. If you allow transfers, you allow reselling by definition (because you can't physically determine whether cash changes hands).

This isn't like tickets, where "return to pool and let an interested party buy it" is a viable strategy. Tickets are fungible, domains are non-fungible.

jon-wood 8 hours ago|||
If the focus of this is truly on one-per-person personal domains then you don't need to allow transfers and reselling. (Although you'll probably get a grey market of people just repointing DNS to someone else anyway, because if there's money to be had someone will take it)
AnthonyMouse 7 hours ago|||
> Most TLDs need to allow domain transfers because projects do genuinely change ownership sometimes.

That's fine. It's not the transferring that you punish, it's the offering for sale. Good luck squatting when publishing any solicitation to sell the domain is the thing that causes you to lose it. How many domains are you going to squat on and pay renewal fees for when you have no way to let the public know you're willing to sell them that won't cause you to lose them?

> This isn't like tickets, where "return to pool and let an interested party buy it" is a viable strategy. Tickets are fungible, domains are non-fungible.

What does fungibility have to do with whether you can return something to the pool? The lack of fungibility makes it work even better, because if you want a specific domain and you find someone squatting on it, you can report them advertising it for sale. When the registry verifies that the report is true then the person filing the original report can be given first crack at the domain when it goes back into the pool.

madsushi 19 hours ago|||
It costs ~$200,000 to apply for a TLD, and there's an ongoing renewal cost in the tens of thousands of USD.
HumanCCF 19 hours ago|||
For this application round, ICANN is running an Applicant Support Program, or ASP. The applicants seeking to apply for a TLD this round who qualify for the ASP will have a substantially reduced application fee, among other benefits. Our organization is one such org who has qualified for the ASP so we will not have to pay the full $227,000 application fee.
KomoD 17 hours ago||
How much is the reduced fee then? As I understand it's somewhere between 75-85% less, which is still a lot of money.

Also, who is paying for the reduced fee, administrative and infra costs? And have you actually submitted gTLD application, or are you trying to crowdfund? Unclear to me.

HumanCCF 14 hours ago||
The fee will fall on us to pay and the gTLD application window is open and our application is in progress. Yes we are crowdfunding (there is a donation link on our website and in the pamphlet) while also actively seeking partners to sponsor us.
miki123211 12 hours ago||
If anybody is asking you "are you trying to crowdfund" and your answer is "yes,", you've clearly failed at conversion, marketing and UX design.

90+% of people who would be willing to sponsor this stuff will go "hmm, I wonder where they've taken their money from, not us I guess." Not everybody reads comments, even fewer post ones of their own.

Being on the front of HN is a great opportunity, I'm afraid you haven't used yours as well as you possibly could.

navigate8310 11 hours ago||
It's usually the clever cunts that try to deceive the investor by deploying an arsenal of marketing tactics. At least the organization in this case, is clear upfront.
AnthonyMouse 19 hours ago|||
That's definitely not a cartel then.
pavel_lishin 21 hours ago|||
It's not clear whether they're actually talking about domains or subdomains there, which is a worrying sign from a potential registrar.
favorited 20 hours ago||
Any domain that isn't one of the Top Level Domains is also a subdomain.
maximilianthe1 19 hours ago|||
Isn't the actual top level domain an empty one after TLD? Looking like «.com.» with trailing dot
akerl_ 16 hours ago|||
I mean sure, but if you started talking about google.com as a subdomain, real humans would correctly look at you funny.
prepend 19 hours ago|||
Is it really that expensive to run a TLD? Name servers are notoriously long running on ancient spec servers.

I’m guessing, if designed well, the registration process could run on lightweight infrastructure. Maybe $1-5k total per year, not counting time. So it’s enough for a fun hobby project.

psychoslave 19 hours ago||
Might be a public service? I guess many countries already had such a thing with running cost several order higher than such a thing as a TLD, operating for centuries now.
miki123211 12 hours ago||
Countries have the loop of "taxpayers pay government -> government funds service -> service benefits taxpayers." You can't do that if you offer the service to the general internet.
psychoslave 11 hours ago||
Why not? I would happily see a fraction of my taxes go into such a project.
BLKNSLVR 16 hours ago||
I'm just being a negative nancy here, but I don't think I'd want to advertise that any of my sites are specifically self hosted, in that it kinda asks for ... security probing, since it's more likely than not got less than professional security surrounding it.

Having said that gestures to the entirety of the internet

So maybe not such a big deal.

drummojg 16 hours ago||
My initial thought as well, so you're no outlier, unless we are.
arrty88 16 hours ago||
Why not? Surely you’re putting a cdn in-front of it still.
lionkor 6 hours ago||
Tell me you don't know when a CDN is needed without telling me you don't know when a CDN is needed
arrty88 4 hours ago||
> The primary purpose of the Cloudflare DNS Proxy is to act as a reverse proxy that sits between your website visitors and your origin server. When enabled, Cloudflare intercepts incoming web traffic, processes it, and shields your server from direct connections.

Maybe you are not up to date on latest trends, but modern CDN purpose is to shield the origin from the public writ large.

illithid0 2 hours ago||
There is more to a public web service's digital attack surface than what it looks like in a browser. Correlating and using breached passwords from someone's unrelated accounts to their self-hosted service login portals, for example.
socalgal2 20 minutes ago||
reading the comments on the site itself makes me think this is one of those "oh, I think found a way to get free money from governments". It doesn't feel like it's being done by someone with genuine knowledge of domains, nor an actual mission. I sounds more like a "deal maker" figuring out a way to get rich by creating an NPO
jerf 18 hours ago||
I don't understand the naming scheme, or the apparent lack of it. I half expected it to be some sort of UUID which would at least makes sense. At one per person for 7 billion people that's a little under 33 bits. Make it a nice round 40 for a bit of future proofing (the scheme doesn't need to live forever) and to make a bit of space internally and that's 5 words from a 256-word list. That would seem to make a lot more sense then first-come, first-serve on something as easy to abuse as .self.

However, perhaps more relevantly, it isn't clear why this needs a TLD and all the hassle associated with a tld when it could just as easily be attached to any convenient domain name lying around that you have access to, such as, oh, say, onmy.cloud.

Then again I have this objection to almost all TLDs. But I'm not sure I'm wrong.

At the very least if you want to show ICANN that you mean business I would strongly suggest just doing it on onmy.cloud, and tell people that if you get the .self you'll transparently migrate their onmy.cloud domain on to .self when you get it. Nothing says "I can do this" like actually doing it.

zenoprax 17 hours ago||
Controlling the TLD has its own benefits and drawbacks (managing email reputation, for example) but as a regular person I have more reason to trust `.cloud` than `.self` purely on the basis of proven continuity. My `.com` domain will almost certainly live as long as the internet does provided that I keep paying to renew.

Regardless, a UUID is probably the right call. It doesn't help with memorability but it's at least more stable than an IPv4/IPv6 address and can be hard-coded. I wonder if you would get a full zone or if it's just an A/AAAA record given their broader goals of email and VPN tunneling.

pizzafeelsright 18 hours ago||
imho we should be able to register ipv6 as our identity.
bananamogul 21 hours ago||
Hold up...why isn't .self listed here:

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

Is this just an idea at this point, or some kind of "you have to use our DNS to resolve .self domains" scheme - ?

HumanCCF 21 hours ago||
This is an idea at this point, the next round of gTLD applications is currently open and we are in the process of applying and we are trying to garner support!
OsrsNeedsf2P 21 hours ago|||
TIL https://newgtldprogram.icann.org/en/application-rounds/round...
NewJazz 20 hours ago||
Oh god not this shit again.

Inb4 they give away .docx

kemotep 20 hours ago||
.zip was especially egregious. No one should have allowed that to happen.
Sophira 18 hours ago||
There are three TLDs I block on my computer completely, and all of them are file extensions - .zip, .md, and .mov.

(Yes, the domain "readme.md" exists. Fortunately, whoever owns it is not using their power for evil and does not have any webserver there... but I'm not risking it.)

NewJazz 16 hours ago|||
.md seems overzealous, no? Do you also block .rs? Would break too much I imagine.
IneffablePigeon 10 hours ago||||
I am SO tired of the Claude docs site getting a rich preview every time anyone mentions “claude.md”. At least it’s registered by Anthropic, but what a terrible decision to allow these TLDs.
dokyun 15 hours ago|||
What do you have against Moldova?
NewJazz 15 hours ago||
They're unlucky, no EU for you.
plopz 21 hours ago||||
Could do something like .brave and just sidestep ICANN?
jazzyjackson 21 hours ago|||
With your hosts file or running a DNS on localist you can do whatever you want
skyyler 21 hours ago||
there's a project for getting retro computers connected to an "internet" with 90s/00s services available, and they use .retro on that. it's pretty cute.
jrnichols 19 hours ago||
This is the first I've heard of this and search results have been fruitless. Where can I find more info on this?
DonHopkins 19 hours ago|||
Oh great, an entire .brave TLD shilling a BAT shitcoin crazy crypto scam. Don't we already have enough of those?
paul7986 21 hours ago|||
So this is my iCloud on the web for AI agents to pay me for access to my content (Cloudflare allows the bots in upon paying) :-)

Cloudflare offers this now (their Pay to Crawl service) but its not geared towards every human getting paid for their content. As of today Facebook and other social media platforms profit from our content....not us!

MagicMoonlight 10 hours ago|||
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TZubiri 21 hours ago||
Domain names are not centralized, there is no central entity that controls an approved list of kosher domains.
zamadatix 19 hours ago||
This is practically useless information (and I don't mean that in the flippant "of low regard" slang sense, I mean a literal "this information becomes irrelevant once you look at what practically applying it does" sense). E.g.:

- Centralized authorities for IP & DNS assignment? You (+anyone else you can convince) can just ignore that and it'll work in your bubble anyways!

- No centralized authorities for IP & DNS assignment? You (+anyone else you can convince) can just ignore that and it'll work in your bubble anyways!

My above pedantry aside, the article is explicitly about "The Internet" (it's even using the capital "I" oft forgotten about these days). I.e. the worldwide bubble which has centrally controlled assignment via ICANN/IANA, separate from other systems using the DNS/IP protocols. That's why it talks about ICANN and why bananamogul mentioned .self has not been centrally registered with IANA yet.

mDyJzDPmBdG 9 hours ago||
It redirected me to: https://drive.google.com/viewerng/viewer?embedded=true&url=h... Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
petee 8 hours ago|
On mobile this surfaced as trying to download a file called "viewer", couldn't see the url. Def weird
lgcmo 5 hours ago|||
I opened in work desktop. I'm waiting the IT call now
rockbruno 7 hours ago|||
Same for me on desktop.
mkl 21 hours ago|
Site errored out and gave me three different error messages as I reloaded. I guess it's self-hosted on something underpowered, and dynamic where static would do the job?
HumanCCF 21 hours ago|
Indeed, this response is way more than we expected. Trying to set up a web cache now.
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