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Posted by donohoe 10 hours ago

European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple(waag.org)
642 points | 279 commentspage 3
welhoilija 9 hours ago|
Time to reach out to your MEP's! I would imagine the id could web-based for example which would make it much less dependent on the Google's or Apple's "SAFETY" services.
preisschild 9 hours ago|
You can just continue using native apps, just dont include / depend on proprietary attestation APIs such as safetynet
MyMemoryfails 4 hours ago||
Everytime EUID mentioned, people forget that EUID is not anonymous!

EUID has "provider/verifier" endpoint which communicates with your website to inform you are indeed 18+ age.

Link: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-srv-verif...

The github page has graph how it works.

So Government can track your accounts via IP,Timestamps, Token (if website saves it).

Just incase you dont bother visiting the github page the simplified flow works like this:

1) You scan QR code 2) Verification 3) Provider/Verifier informs website +18 age

So if i verify my age then watch some material which doesn't agree with with my government values like females with male genitals. I'd be royally screwed if government wishes to pursue.

28304283409234 6 hours ago||
More about Waag: worth a read https://waag.org/en/about-waag/ - Marleen Stikker is a national treasure.
MaoSYJ 7 hours ago||
They to frame this so politicians care is: we are giving monetary policies power to a foreign corporation.
edg5000 7 hours ago||
There seems to be no awareness from EU govenments about how much power we're handing over to two large outside companies. This incompetence in the leadership will cause a lot of harm over the years. This has been going on for a long time.
J-Kuhn 9 hours ago||
Sarcastic view: Doesn't matter - the EU wont listen, then pull a surprised pikachu and make laws to force googles play integrity to attest that other devices are genuine, because obviously, the problem is google, not stupid design decisions made while creating the app.
redleader55 8 hours ago|
I think EU is warming up to the possibility that relying on US tech is has strategic consequences.
greenleafone7 6 hours ago||
I like how we quickly moved past the fact that the government wants to know who we are, what we visit, what we say, what we buy, and has explicitly said that they want to control what we buy, where we go, and what we are allowed to say. But we are focused on what specific mega-corporation those systems will use to function.

I agree of course, Europe should not be using US services for critical infrastructure. But more importantly I think that we are private citizens. The government should know as least as possible about us. We on the other hand should know every single move, decision, and discussion they have while they sit on the chairs we paid for.

p2detar 6 hours ago|
> I agree of course, Europe should not be using US services for critical infrastructure. But more importantly I think that we are private citizens.

The irony in this as a European is that in the US people don’t even need national ID in the sense we got in Europe. They travel using driving license or library card. We got mandatory passports with biometric data - refusal to provide that data is practically impossible.

hoppp 8 hours ago||
Its all lining corporate pockets but what can we do? Europe needs sovereign smartphone infra but even if that existed people would still prefer Iphones.

The corporations have the tech and network effects on their side.

zmmmmm 4 hours ago||
It's honestly quite baffling that the EU would want to put any more power in the hands of any US controlled company at this point. The US is a borderline hostile state, only recently threatening to invade Greenland among numerous other examples. The situation with Anthropic has illustrated that the US government will not hesitate to leverage power over US companies when it feels its interests are advantaged by doing so. If anything, the EU should be banning use of Google or Apple dependent architectures, not pseudo mandating them.
dariosalvi78 8 hours ago|
Digital single market, digital sovereignty and all those nice words...
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