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Posted by 01-_- 2 hours ago

BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range(insideevs.com)
26 points | 65 comments
simonbarker87 1 hour ago|
It’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.
apparent 1 hour ago||
Interesting, I find it to be more pleasing than many recent BMW EVs I've seen. I was preparing to not like it as I clicked the link and was pleasantly surprised. Don't love the tail lights, but otherwise it's good/fine to my eye.
dcrazy 1 hour ago||
It’s got Bugs Bunny teeth.
dogma1138 20 minutes ago||
Beaver teeth
blensor 1 hour ago|||
What exactly do you find particularly ugly on this car?

The only thing that is a bit weird to me are the headlights, otherwise I quite like the look.

paolfs 1 hour ago|||
Haven't you seen the Ferrari Luce?

Anyway, the iX5 is also not my taste but at least it looks like a BMW.

A very heavy BMW. 2900kg!

rconti 57 minutes ago|||
taillights look like a vinfast.
jonshariat 1 hour ago|||
I am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.
iosguyryan 1 hour ago|||
The screen cut ins, typographic headlights, and crystal scroller wheels scream "teenager escaped room due to Bitcoin". BMW has many timeless designs to pull from in the last 30-40 years, but chose to pass the mature confident adult torch to the likes of Volvo and Rivian...
wil421 1 hour ago||||
For me the last generation, F-series, was pretty much e46 3.0. You can only iterate so many times.

Neue Klasse is a bit odd but I thought the same thing about the F and G model runs. I’ll need to see it in person.

BMW is dethroning Mercedes and continually beating Audi sales in the US. I’m surprised so many people would buy a car if they thought it was ugly. Benz reliability has tanked and Audi is lackluster as usual.

prepend 52 minutes ago||
I finally gave up on bmw last year (after 15 years and 4 models) due to their reliability and cost of repair. I don’t think I’d touch them after spending thousands chasing down coolant repairs due to poor design (plastic parts, high labor cost location to inspect and replace).
avhception 1 hour ago||||
It's also just a ginormous hunk of metal. Which also makes the long range kinda moot, strapping a bigger battery will of course result in a bigger range. I'm guessing the car doesn't make any improvements on the efficiency?
pengaru 50 minutes ago||||
My impression of new car design aesthetics is they're mostly ugly to me because they're optimizing for selling to a different market than mine (USA).

New automobiles starting looking Alien after China started buying more of them than the US, and it's continued ever since.

Markoff 1 hour ago|||
TBH even ICE BMWs from recent years all look like fugly tanks
esafak 1 hour ago|||
It's like a different brand now. Apparently the Chinese drove this trend: https://www.hotcars.com/bmw-moves-on-big-grille-era-neue-kla...
Markoff 1 hour ago|||
I mean compared to the other BMW tanks this looks actually slightly less like tank

I guess people would buy it just for the brand with whatever design, personally I find current BMW tank design the worst in last 30-40 years I am watching car design

ai_slop_hater 1 hour ago||
Elon Musk would love it lol
buggeryorkshire 38 minutes ago||
We just bought an Audi A6 Avant Performance which is a year old and about the same spec?

Missus is a BMW person and really wanted another, but they were not competitive. I did a 380 mile journey in it at around 85% battery and it was awesome.

nkotov 1 hour ago||
I own a G90 M5. While definitely a heavy car, I love having best of both worlds on demand. Having driven 7 different Tesla's previously as daily drivers, there is something convenient about being able to fill up extremely quickly when on road trips. My only issue with it is the small gas tank which means I have to refill it once a week currently with the way I drive.

I really don't like BMW's direction with Neue Klasse. It just looks stupid for the sake of being different.

wil421 1 hour ago|
My g05 X5 M60i is a great car, probably the best SUV I’ve ever owned. Fantastic gas mileage on long trips and more power than I need for when I don’t care. The Tesla interior was so cheap I couldn’t make the jump.

The PHEV X5 50e or 550e is what I want in a car. EV Range for my commute and daily stuff plus I can fill up instantly on long trips. I have 3 young kids so long stops are not ideal for me.

Agree with Neue Klasse, I’m more of an LCI guy myself when new models come around. I’m tempted to grab a g80 M3 before production stops but the idea of 3 kids kicking my Tartufo Carbon Buckets is a put off.

ryanmerket 2 hours ago||
dang that's nice but what's up with the Elon's X logo on the lights?
MengerSponge 1 hour ago|
That's prior art if there ever was prior art. It's just unicode U+1D54F
jerlam 44 minutes ago|||
BMW doesn't seem to use that specific X anywhere else for any of their EV lineup. Even the back of the car uses a normal "X" character.

I think it's some mandate to give their car models some kind of "signature" headlight design.

ryanmerket 1 hour ago|||
sure, but no other unicode has a multi-million dollar branding campaign behind it ;)
dole 1 hour ago|||
It's not like they're manji headlights
cineticdaffodil 1 hour ago|||
Xitter? It used to be called Twitter, but the T crossbeam came loose and down.. sorry
ricardobayes 1 hour ago||
The real competition has 1MW charging. BYD has installed some of these chargers in Europe recently. It's really interesting to see the battery charge go up in real time.
jp191919 1 hour ago||
BYD is doing some amazing things
jeffbee 1 hour ago||
1MW charging is a cute stunt but the economics simply do not make sense. The amount of copper and equipment to support that rate is ridiculous.
ricardobayes 16 minutes ago||
I don't doubt that, however they seem to have approx. 500 of these chargers across China.
t1234s 1 hour ago||
Is it a better trend to add more and more batteries to increase range or keep a target 250ish mile range and over time remove batteries as they improve in power density?
AdamN 1 hour ago|
First off range should be based off of 70mph/110kph since that's what actually matters when people talk about range (how far away from home can I get on a full tank?).

And 250 miles just isn't far enough to fully mitigate range anxiety. I would say about 300-350+ miles is the sweet spot that higher end makers should target.

drcongo 17 minutes ago||
Headline should be "BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition in the US". This is lagging stuff coming out of China.
rconti 58 minutes ago||
144kWh (!!) to get 435mi range though.
haunter 16 minutes ago||
€102,800 to €125,000 lol

Yeah I know it's a luxury car but still

tiahura 1 hour ago|
Realistically $100k for a 5 series.
apparent 1 hour ago||
Well, it's an X5 competitor, and it's apparently only $10k more than the base ICE version. Considering this is the extended range EV version, that's not terrible. TFA says pricing for the regular-range version has not been announced yet. I will be curious to see where it comes in, since this the extended range version is only $2,500 more than the PHEV. Not a lot of wiggle room in there!
strictnein 58 minutes ago||
Probably, yeah. Wouldn't surprise me if it got close to $110k fully equipped. We looked at the BMW iX (which this iX5 replaces), and that was going for ~$95k, although it had some insanely good lease deals.

We settled on the X5 50e. ~40-45 mile electric range with an overall ~450-500 mile range, and rather good performance when you want/need it. Total price well equipped was ~$92-94k. Also drives a lot nicer than the iX did.

We are getting an equivalent of about ~800 miles a tank. Could do better, but we only use the basic charger on 110v, which charges at a rate of ~1 mile an hour.

apparent 48 minutes ago||
How much does maintenance cost? When I had a BMW, service was really expensive. Does the fact that most of your miles are on electric change the calculus? Obviously things like tires wear out based on total miles, but presumably some of the ICE-related services don't end up being as frequent?
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