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Posted by soheilpro 9 hours ago

Monetization Gateway: Charge for any resource behind Cloudflare via x402(blog.cloudflare.com)
199 points | 111 commentspage 4
zb3 1 hour ago|
Crypto crap should not only be illegal... it is already illegal - there's no such thing as legal anonymous payments, due to AML laws.

When I see crypto I immediately think of fraud (and corruption of this US administration)

artisin 6 hours ago||
> This is what we are building toward: an agent-first Internet with Internet-scale settlement built in.

Ah yes, the starry-eyed dream of early web pioneers is finally upon us: a soulless internet filled with soulless agents and microtransactions!

But in all seriousness, it's hard to deny that the attention-based model that has propelled the web forward for the last 30 years is somewhat falling apart. And I don't have, nor have I come across, any meaningful solutions that could realistically work better. So maybe it's just time we turn off this 'internet' thing and call it a day.

jedisct1 3 hours ago||
Monetization Gateway for Bunny CDN: https://github.com/dip-proto/x402

and for Fastly: https://github.com/dip-proto/x402-fastly

mrcwinn 4 hours ago||
Tackling this at the network layer has limitations. Stripe bought Metronome, which inserts at the application layer. Arguably makes more sense.
mrsssnake 4 hours ago||
Internet needs an open, integrated and universal payment layer. But first the payments should be done well (look at: Taler project), then integrations should be build, not the other way around.

I know many people here would be against anything related to payment on the Internet, but I do believe the ability to have a button like "One click here to anonymously with no account pay 0.02€ and download the media" could be a net positive for Internet freedom.

latchkey 5 hours ago||
We need an email address so that we can contact people if there is a problem.

So far, I'm having trouble figuring out how to get that out of x402.

holistio 8 hours ago||
how will the end user pay? will we all have stablecoin wallets installed?
titanomachy 7 hours ago||
I assume that if this catches on then the agents will have their own wallets and deduct fees from your account credit, just like with API-based usage. So the way you interact with them won't change, from your POV they'll just get more expensive.
ygouzerh 5 hours ago|||
It seems the usage will be mostly agent <-> service or service <-> service. For user, probably using a Metamask-like wallet yes
dist-epoch 7 hours ago||
article says it's mostly for agents, users will not be directly involved

> At the same time, an agent can make thousands of micropayments without friction, while asking a person to approve each payment would be impossibly burdensome.

but yes, they will need wallets

but it's also optional, you do not want to buy these paid for requests, you do not need a wallet

Catloafdev 5 hours ago||
Conceptually, sure - but crypto? Really?
chickensong 1 hour ago|
Yes really. Just because the initial rush ended in scam bros, doesn't mean there's no value in the underlying tech. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
colesantiago 6 hours ago|
Can the agents use debit cards?

Stablecoins doesn't make sense here and prefer not to use crypto at all.

ygouzerh 5 hours ago||
Actually, x402 was created because using a credit card programmatically is very difficult.

The whole business of Stripe is based on that: it's so hard for developers to do, and so many regulations, that they would rather pay an another company to do so.

Crypto can be sent just using a contract.transfer() call

xur17 4 hours ago||
And debit / credit cards are horrible for privacy (name and address info is sent along with payments).
smoovb 5 hours ago||
Debit cards have to pay too many people. The acquiring bank, the receiving bank, the network, all take their fees. Stripe and their minimum $.30 per transactions leave no room for $0.01 API calls.
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