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Posted by bilsbie 5 hours ago

Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For(reclaimthenet.org)
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maxverse 5 hours ago|
Related discussions:

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48730904

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48691346

qwerpy 2 hours ago||
There’s still a good amount of outrage to be farmed from this, looks like.
HelloUsername 4 hours ago||
Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48718967
matheusmoreira 3 hours ago||
You've already paid for it. Just download it from somewhere else with a clean conscience.
felooboolooomba 2 hours ago||
This might have repercussions in the UK. There are supreme court where T&C have been invalidated due to not being advertised well enough. The more onerous the clause is, the more burden is laid on the seller to make sure the customer understands that.

I doubt most of the people who "bought" the film understood that they weren't buying it and it could be taken away from theme at any time.

firefoxd 3 hours ago||
It is in times like these that I start getting messages from friend and family that asks:

> What's the name of that website?

I tell them to use yandex, they will find plenty of such websites...

zuzululu 3 hours ago||
its funny how Russia became the champion for free speech as long as it doesnt impact them
nekusar 3 hours ago||
gitflic.ru is the Russian Github that permits speech that the DMCA doesn't.

And yes, bypassing DRM is banned speech in the USA, punishable by criminal law. And there's no actual requirement of a company to claim DRM and defeat methods. The law is set up so they can claim basically anything, and its 100% backed by criminal law.

1FA is kinda a joke, cause saying inane shit like "Hitler was a good guy" is perfectly fine, but "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" (HD-DVD private key) is criminally banned speech.

c-hendricks 4 hours ago||
Should mention today Sony also announced the end of physical releases for their consoles, and the closure of the PS3 and PSVita stores.
bilekas 4 hours ago||
It used to be that streaming services were an excellent option even over torrenting because of the ease of access and use.

Now we're not even getting to retain what we buy, this is not a streaming service, these were sold to users individually.

We've gone full circle where I honestly believe pirating is a far better offering.

The root of the problem is these ridiculous content licensing agreements, it should be very very obvious to the customer when they're buying that "Hey, you will own this until X date when our content licensing agreement is finished"

Not hidden by design in some dense ToS.

jo4329j5 4 hours ago||
That's why I pirate content and will continue to pirate content. I'm not hurting artists. I go to shows and premiers and book signings. I'm perfectly fine with stealing from publishing cartels.
PUSH_AX 4 hours ago|
> I'm not hurting artists

I guess residuals are a made up thing.

crote 27 minutes ago|||
Basically, yeah. A company like Spotify pays fractions of a cent per stream. If you're not a Taylor Swift, residuals are essentially a rounding error. Going to tours, concerts, or signings makes the artist far more money. We've reached a point where Spotify has become nothing more than a well-disguised advertising platform for concerts.
Waterluvian 3 hours ago||||
The communication on this could be better. I feel like I’ve heard that artists often get pretty much nothing.

At some point, being more honest about what artists get paid will probably help the middlemen more than harm them.

someonebaggy 3 hours ago|||
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bloomingeek 3 hours ago||
Wait, people trusted a corporation and got screwed?!? Why, that's...unheard of!(My wife, bless her, has "purchased" dozens of movies on amazon. I warned her that when the amazon wind changes, she may regret those purchases. I got the look.)
mskonline 1 hour ago||
Or when the account gets compromised. I recently lost my amazon account and with it, all of my kindle purchases. Fortunately, I was able to turn on the airplane mode on my kindle just in time and preserve the books which were already downloaded. Guess I have to jail break it some day.
devn0ll 3 hours ago|||
I understand where you are going with this, but it also feels incorrect to me to blame people innocently "buying" media from a $corporation.

What are people to do if they want to stay on the non-pirate/legal side of this but also prevent being royally F-ed?

someonebaggy 3 hours ago|||
There's no overlap. Just pirate.
ahartmetz 1 hour ago||||
I suppose you could "buy" and also get a copy off of thepiratebay.org - you already paid for the license. It is teeechnically illegal because the "purchase" agreement very likely doesn't allow backups, but come on. (Also, the uploading part of torrenting is usually separately illegal)
nkrisc 3 hours ago|||
You can just not watch a movie. No one needs movies.
Capricorn2481 3 hours ago||
Nobody said otherwise.
someonebaggy 3 hours ago||
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Cider9986 2 hours ago||
https://fmhy.net is the most comprehensive piracy guide ever creates with over 30k links.
danbruc 2 hours ago|
What did those movies cost? More like a movie ticket or more like a Blu-ray?
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