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Posted by ihsw 6 days ago

Meta reuses old RAM in new servers with custom bridge chip(www.networkworld.com)
252 points | 168 commentspage 3
amelius 7 hours ago|
In the future, hardware is only for big companies to own. At least it seems we're heading that way.
TacticalCoder 6 hours ago||
> In the future, hardware is only for big companies to own. At least it seems we're heading that way.

China is desperate to sell anything to... everyone. If there's a market, they'll eventually be there to fill it.

It took them decades for cars, but now they did it.

For RAM, CXMT went from 20 000 wafers per month to... 240 000 wafers per month in something like two years. And they're extending capacity massively now. It's a company only 10 years old.

The market is there and China shall flood it: that's how they operate with everything.

At some point they'll probably even come with GPUs that shall do 80% of the job for 20% of the price.

Just like you can buy chinese server motherboards at 1/5th the price of a SuperMicro one today.

So I'm not sure hardware is going to be only for big companies: China is going to put pressure on the OpenAI and Anthropic of this world locking all the RAM / SSDs / chips of this world.

Zancarius 5 hours ago|||
I think there's a great deal of underestimation of China's manufacturing. Granted, wafers are a totally different thing than any of the other industries they've dominated for cheap, but I certainly wouldn't count them out.

I've recently gotten into fountain pens. Sure, a $7 Jinhao or $15 Hongdian pen isn't going to write quite as nice as a $200+ pen, but they're about 80% of the way there, and you can buy tons of them for the cost of a single more expensive pen. Plus, some models will accept Western nibs just fine which means you're buying a cheap barrel and assembling a much higher quality product for almost pennies on the dollar.

One would do well not to underestimate their ability to fill markets. It may take years, but it will happen.

amelius 6 hours ago|||
Can you buy Chinese cars without the Multimedia/GPS computer and "phone home" system?
alex43578 5 hours ago||
Maybe? But there's honestly not much market for this, as I'd guess less than 1% of the population cares about this. Particularly since they're already carrying a phone anyway.
amelius 5 hours ago|||
For export, other countries could require a "dumb" car, to which domestic companies could add the intelligence.

Anyway, the point is that in the future you cannot own things. Whether that is because of the small market or because of other reasons, that does not matter.

serf 5 hours ago|||
there isn't a market for barebones for the sake of privacy, but there is a market apparently for 'barebones for the sake of value', which is what the whole Slate truck thing is attacking.

I'm sure a chinese EV group could key in on the same pure-value market if there isn't a group already doing that. 'Golf carts for the street.'

jgalt212 6 hours ago||
Have you seen the talk: The Coming War on General Computation?
amelius 6 hours ago||
No, but I'm sure I'll agree with a lot of things in it.
bushbaba 3 hours ago||
Wonder if Intel optain will would have made a huge comeback.
glitchc 6 hours ago||
Not terribly exciting at 1/10th the bandwidth and double the latency. That's a heavy price to pay to use old DDR4 memory.
fmajid 6 hours ago|
Probably good enough for memcached type applications
ChoGGi 4 hours ago||
Ram drives are making a comeback :)

Time to dust off my DDRDrive

trkarlb 5 hours ago||
There is already a data center oversupply. xAI rents out colossus and Meta also rents out capacity.
pmontra 8 hours ago||
If they grow desperate I have GBs of DDR2 AND DDR3 in a drawer.
papascrubs 2 hours ago||
I've got some RDRAM-- still waiting for the RAMBUS revolution, any day now
annagio_ 6 hours ago|||
Make sure to charge them double!
cynicalsecurity 4 hours ago||
You've got a friend request form Zuck
virajk_31 7 hours ago||
if not the prices, no one would have implemented this in large scale solution..
emsign 4 hours ago||
Who would have thought that the hardware I own didn't go down in value for the first time in my life but almost doubled in value.
annagio_ 7 hours ago||
how the mighty have fallen! Can't wait to see
dana321 8 hours ago|
Supply-demand economics really went awry in the age of chasing agi