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Posted by LabsLucas 6 hours ago

AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit(www.lttlabs.com)
214 points | 155 commentspage 4
khurs 5 hours ago|
Are the likes of Dell and Lenovo not going to be annoyed that AMD are cutting them out?

As traditionally AMD was a supplier of parts.

tracker1 4 hours ago||
Both Dell and Lenovo have tended to favor Intel first... even more recently on business laptops.
benoau 5 hours ago||
Do they care that Microsoft is selling the Surface, or that Intel used to sell the NUC?
khurs 5 hours ago||
Intel = Fair as they sell both Intel and AMD so no loyalty on either side.

Microsoft = yes, they care enormously, as Surface has taken away many sales. Albeit they sold some ChromeBooks

danielrmay 5 hours ago||
Perhaps if less spending went towards their private aviation interests LTT labs could review a piece of hardware that was released _this_ year, or maybe extend their narrow testing process to cover real-world use metrics like TTFT. Not to mention the lack of real value-perf comparison to CUDA
Mogzol 1 hour ago|
This hardware was just released this week? The CPU is from last year, but this dev kit is brand new.
danielrmay 1 hour ago||
Can you explain which benchmarking differences you'd expect to see from this hardware, considering?
Mogzol 1 hour ago||
None evidently. Why does that matter? I was just pointing out that this hardware was released _this_ year.
alexdns 5 hours ago||
Bosgame is $2799 does the same thing if you plan to run only 1 of them
mhitza 5 hours ago|
The repeated claim that all these different forms are not directly comparable is a very strange aspect.

Only thing that separates them is the build quality and the extra 20W of boost the framework desktop and this variant support.

They have a note on the thermals but no measurement of noise. Doesn't matter if it's stricly a whoosh or a whine, only if they bother people in the same room. And the small ones like Bosgame get a consistent complaint about the noise in in-depth youtube videos.

alexdns 2 hours ago||
The framework has a noisy PSU , the bosgame is noisy However you can fix both - the bosgame leaves you a large margin to do so
onraglanroad 2 hours ago||
I think I might be tempted to wait for the Butlerian market crash and pick up stuff from the firesale.

Depends how long this market can remain utterly loony though.

m0llusk 3 hours ago||
Seems like having a big and clunky external power supply enables a smaller profile for the rest of the unit while making installation a bit more complex. How exactly is this thing going to be installed for use? Wouldn't it be easier to just have a bigger box with more shielding and heat dissipation?
wmf 3 hours ago|
External power supplies make UL certification cheaper; that's the reason. I hate power bricks but I have so many on my desk that one more makes no difference. The Beelink version has an internal PSU BTW.
frugalmail 3 hours ago||
When this was half the price of the DGX Spark, it made sense. But same price is a ridiculous premium for inferior performance but the ability to run Windows.
Scroll_Swe 3 hours ago||
So... I dont want to ruin gaming more but why not get a gaming PC? Figured this out 15 years ago if its good for gaming, put some more RAM in and boom you have a workstation...
Grombobulous 3 hours ago||
The shortcoming is the memory speed/bandwisth.

With a desktop your system memory is slow and your fast graphics memory is limited in size.

To me it seems like the best bang for your buck in the BYO desktop PC space is to get a board with dual PCIe slots then find some old generation 24GB GPUs like RTX 3090.

But you’re not getting access to more than 48GB of fast memory without something similar to this or a Mac Studio.

Scroll_Swe 2 hours ago||
Interesting thank you, almost reminds me of a PS2 then, super fast memory but not very good "traditional" GPU
frugalmail 3 hours ago||
The biggest problem is that if you want to run large (continuous memory) models, gaming graphics cards aren't sufficient, and if you manage to get graphics cards that you can chain it becomes a lot more expensive (and better performance) than these machines and GB10 machines.
cat_plus_plus 4 hours ago||
Drastically slower than Macs and NVIDIA unified memory boxes while not being any cheaper.
zuzululu 3 hours ago||
what can you realistically do with this ? $4k is a lot of money to spend on something like this without really being sure what models can reliably run
atlgator 2 hours ago|
Another Framework Desktop clone.
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