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Posted by matthewgapp 5 hours ago

Show HN: Nobie – an Excel-compatible runtime for agents and humans(nobie.com)
68 points | 35 comments
rush86999 48 minutes ago|
Is this manipulating excel files using agent AI? How is this different from using a python package like openpyxl and adding a UI layer on top with agentic co-editing?

https://github.com/rush86999/atom/blob/main/backend/core/off...

matthewgapp 41 minutes ago|
openpyxl is great at what it does, but it’s a file-format library rather than a workbook runtime.

It can insert columns, for example, but it doesn’t maintain dependencies such as formulas, tables, charts, or defined names when doing so. It also doesn’t evaluate formulas.

Nobie runs the workbook like Excel would: it evaluates formulas, maintains workbook semantics through edits, renders the result, and reads and writes the file.

Roughly speaking, Nobie is to an Excel workbook what V8 is to JavaScript. openpyxl is closer to a parser and serializer.

matthewgapp 36 minutes ago||
agents do a lot better when they can "run" the excel workbook and understand the impact of inputs, and how pixels look when layering on things like conditional formats.
matthewgapp 5 hours ago||
Hey HN, I’m Matt, the founder of Nobie. I started my career in banking and haven’t been able to shake the deep reverence I have for Excel. I grew up on it.

There are many good attempts to reinvent spreadsheets. We’re doing something different. We don’t want people to adopt a new language or move their work to another format. Instead, we want to improve how the Excel language is run and give people a choice of where to run it.

That’s what we’re building with Nobie: a second Excel-compatible runtime. It’s available as a native Mac app and as a CLI for macOS and Linux. The engine is written from first principles in Rust.

Nobie isn’t done. We are not at Excel parity today. Some features are missing.

We’re a team of four systems engineers. For the next eight weeks, all our work is going into closing those gaps.

Nobie is free and always will be for everything you can do in Excel.

Try it with a real workbook and tell us what breaks. The complicated and ugly ones are especially welcome.

moostii 2 hours ago|
What is the business model here? The website made think "sounds too good to be true"
matthewgapp 2 hours ago|||
Fair question. The short version is: the desktop app and CLI are free and always will be; optional cloud & AI services will cost money.

Working w/ .xlsx files shouldn't cost money, and we think people should be able to use their own AI.

We expect to charge orgs/enterprises for a cloud product around governance, and for AI where/when it makes sense. We also plan to make some money when large companies use Nobie for training or to power their products.

Right now, though, we’re entirely focused on making the desktop app and CLI hands down the best xlsx experience in the world. The paid cloud product comes later.

matthewgapp 8 minutes ago||
Also, we've designed the product so it costs us zero dollars to run :)

having zero marginal cost is nice and allows us to do things that others can't

njaremko 2 hours ago|||
That was our goal :P

https://nobie.com/desktop-app-license-terms

njaremko 3 hours ago||
Some features I think are pretty cool:

- We can render pixel perfect PNGs and PDFs (native vectorized PDFs)

- You can pass an xlsx, inputs, and output cells, and get a JSON API from any excel workbook

- You can pipe a postgres query into an xlsx file, and then run excel formulas over it

- You can pretty easily setup a `git diff` helper for xlsx files that shows you the changes you care about

- We have a built-in terminal, auto-launchers for Claude and Codex (with some fancy hooks that inject context when you send messages) and a pretty good MCP. After you install Nobie you're agents can do pretty much anything in an xlsx. We also provide a lot of tools that give agents high-signal information about the workbook, so they can quickly get up to speed and do good work

- You can programmatically edit workbooks in pleasant ways, and the workbook will update properly, AND recalc incrementally, AND the numbers will tie with Excel (if they don't definitely let us know, but we've put a huge amount of work into making sure they do)

- There's a bunch of examples on the CLI page on the website, but a lot of previously impossible/very hard things are now pretty trivial with our CLI, and I think this'll be really useful for for a lot of devs (the CLI will be getting better throughout this week, I have a lot more stuff I want to do with this)

- Happy to talk technical details. Everything is from scratch, and our render and calc engines have been a massive amount of work.

njaremko 5 hours ago||
I'm one of the engineers on the team. We're really excited to be putting this out into the world. There's a massive amount of functionality in this thing that we're hoping will make the lives of everyone who needs to work with xlsx files better. Both programmatically and with a GUI.

See https://nobie.com/cli for the dev focused aspects, but I'm really proud of this thing, and happy that most people will be able to use it for free.

Happy to answer any questions people have.

pseudosavant 1 hour ago||
This is definitely giving of vibes like what Deno/Bun are to Nodejs, Nobie is to Excel. I wish there was a Windows version. Hopefully, this gives the Excel team reason to compete and improve their product like what happened to Nodejs.
njaremko 1 hour ago||
Don't worry, windows is coming... :)
3kidsinacoat 13 minutes ago||
Looking forward to trying it out on windows, looks really interesting.
matthewgapp 1 hour ago||
similar vibes, maybe less drama? lol
liampulles 1 hour ago||
The copy here says that your data is Local-only and that it can interface with Claude, Codex, or Gemini... are you running these models locally, or am I missing something?
njaremko 1 hour ago|
We're saying we don't take your data. If you choose to use codex or claude, and send your data to them yourself, that's your choice.

You don't need to use AI. We're fine if you just want a really good, free, spreadsheet tool :)

mkirsten 1 hour ago||
Very cool, well done. I’ll try it out! Is the calculation engine for the formulas tour custom, or is it built on top of eg Apache POI?
matthewgapp 1 hour ago||
built from the ground up in rust, with the aim that it's much faster than Excel.

It supports all Excel formulas.

njaremko 1 hour ago||
Everything is custom, it's been a lot of work :)
patrickkidger 2 hours ago||
I'd love to have a way to make xlsx files be git-compatible, i.e. stored in plaintext.

I realise this may be out-of-scope as it's kind of baked into the file format, but does Nobie offer any functionality in that direction?

matthewgapp 2 hours ago|
via the CLI, you could probz stream values and formatting out of the sheet, although we probably need to add a few things to ensure you can reach into every nook and cranny of the xlsx file.

We an example on our site of how you might use git & nobie together.

hmokiguess 3 hours ago||
Tangential, but what's the art style of those images throughout the page? I really like them.
matthewgapp 2 hours ago|
glad you like em :) we're going for a gritty, off-world museum vibes. Generated with midjourney.
gervwyk 2 hours ago|
Very nice! Keen to try this out, been avoiding to add any MS to my new mac, and bumping into office files a few times a week sucks.
njaremko 2 hours ago|
I hope you try Nobie out. We've put a lot of effort into making sure its a great experience.

We're a native app, so you should expect a reasonable app size, 120fps, fast (correct) calcs, all the keyboard shortcuts from Excel, and a pretty UI.

If you're an LLM person, we ship a pretty good MCP, so you can just tell claude/codex to work on the file, and it'll open nobie and update it in front of you (if you use our embedded terminal, you get fancy hooks and context injection from the workbook to make the LLMs smarter, otherwise we have tools that provide some useful context to agents)

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