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Posted by shintoist 10 hours ago

How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing(jola.dev)
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redsparrow 1 hour ago|
Some of my greatest joys in life have come from putting string replacement plugins on other people's browsers. I mostly just applied it to news sites.

s/big/super massive/g s/cardiac arrest/cataclysmic diarrhea/g

I mean, it's really endlessly entertaining. I'm wiping away tears just thinking about it.

SubiculumCode 6 hours ago||
I mourn the removal of Claude's Concise Style. I'd provide it a roughly drafted paragraph, ask concise-Claude to "rewrite for clarity", out comes the same paragraph, but cleaned up and perfect for grant writing.

BTW, this approach also tends to prevent certain phrases like "load-bearing", because it is working directly with something I wrote first. It also still says what I wanted to write (not writing the science for me), but saves me a lot of time reworking sentences into a final form.

I tried to recreate concise mode with a skill, but I am not convinced it does as well.

copperx 5 hours ago||
What was Concise Style? Not a skill, but something built in?
SubiculumCode 5 hours ago||
It might have been a prompt originally.
actionfromafar 4 hours ago||
At the top of Claude.md put a few lines where two "people" ask and answer a couple of questions. Very tersely.
dwaltrip 3 hours ago||
Examples? Do you use this pattern?
ChipopLeMoral 2 hours ago||
I analyze in the company I work for, the number of commits with "wire" or "wiring" in the description, and it's a direct correlation to Claude usage, more so than any other Claudism I tested. My honest take, and I'm going to give it to you straight: No one was using "wired" a year ago, now it's in like 10% of commits.
twothreeone 1 hour ago|
"phase", "gate", and "plumbing" as well..
jihadjihad 5 hours ago||
What is arguably worse is hearing these phrases from humans who have been inculcated with the notion that their usage is idiomatic and appropriate.

And we thought "robust", "circle back", and "to leverage" were grating...

1899-12-30 4 hours ago||
makes it easy to discard someones opinion when they hit you with 'geniunely'[0]

[0]: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=genuinely&date=all&geo=U...

causal 5 hours ago|||
Yeah I sometimes see people on here getting defensive when you call out AI slop, saying maybe it's just a human who writes like Claude, and I really don't care- slop is slop.
ceejayoz 5 hours ago||
The humans are bristling because they wrote like that first. It's where Claude got it from!
nprateem 4 hours ago||
Some YT videos are almost impossible to watch as people read out this shit from scripts
drmajormccheese 9 hours ago||
And there’s the smoking gun.
wrs 5 hours ago||
The gun is not smoking; it’s an honest footgun that will be load-bearing when it lands.
wren6991 2 hours ago|||
You're right to push back on this. The honest take is it's not a smoking gun -- that's a sharp critique.
mostlysimilar 5 hours ago||||
That's a real distinction, you're right to point it out.
dbbk 20 minutes ago|||
You're right, and that's the sharpest thing you've said all day.
thenatureboy 3 hours ago|||
Ugh I hate this one
tom_ 5 hours ago||||
Nuance quietly surfaced.
mikeocool 5 hours ago|||
Clean!
hmokiguess 4 hours ago|||
You're right to pushback, and that's on me.
twothreeone 1 hour ago|||
This is the definitive, honest result.
kenny11 6 hours ago|||
And the footgun (although I haven't seen a smoking footgun yet).
stavros 9 hours ago|||
Now I have the full picture.
piazz 9 hours ago|||
This one observation changes everything.
dd8601fn 9 hours ago||
We’ve identified the shape of the problem.
lemontheme 7 hours ago||||
And it has teeth.
tsukikage 5 hours ago||
This will bite you.
franze 9 hours ago|||
You are right ...
nberkman 7 hours ago|||
The one that matters.
ggambetta 5 hours ago||
That's the unlock!
btbuildem 2 hours ago||
I've put a few lines in my CLAUDE.md to have it not do that, and avoid the top tedious rhetorical devices (super helpful when I have it write documentation). Still fighting with its natural tendency to insanely overcomplicate everything, that one seems really integral somehow.
getlawgdon 5 hours ago||
I've wrestled with this lately. I partially solved with a very specific instruction saved to claude.md regarding the style of responses, but prior to this, the dense yammer coming back was getting impossible to parse. I mean REALLY nonsensical euphemistic phrases. My next instruction will be having it replace incessant "honest assessment" and "genuine result" and crap like that with something, I don't know, less extremely weird and concerning.
asveikau 1 hour ago||

    replacements = {
        "seam": "whatchamacallit",
That seems like it would work whatchamacallitlessly.
pacoWebConsult 2 hours ago||
I had claude write itself a post-message hook that regex's the message for any variant of "You're right" and launch a full-screen transparent confetti effect.
foo-bar-baz529 9 hours ago|
Is this a belt-and-suspenders solution?
ggambetta 5 hours ago||
Yes, and that actually sharpens my previous conclusions.
malfist 5 hours ago||
That's an importance nuance and makes the previous statements even more clear. I have the full picture now.
mapmeld 9 hours ago|||
This is the worst one for me. I can maybe think of what it means, but I never heard it before, and could easily be imagining a meaning.

Some of the other Claude-isms (quickly googling, especially 'gate' and 'canonical') I feel the issue is they sound right, but aren't specific enough to why we are doing something.

zzrrt 3 hours ago|||
I heard "belt and suspenders" at least 20 years ago (meaning multiple solutions to a problem with backup in case one fails), and maybe would be longer if I were older. You could blame Claude for overusing it or importing it to other cultures maybe, but it's not in the category of invented phrases or ones that only barely mean something in the specific context Claude used them.
blanched 9 hours ago|||
Personally my least favorite is the overuse of "quietly" (e.g. "No tricks. No marketing gimmicks. Just one company quietly outperforming the others"), and the one that makes the least sense to me is "that's the wedge."

I'm curious how these become so ingrained. Then the uncomfortable part is humans start repeating it more (a colleague said "belt-and-suspenders" during brainstorming the other day).

graemep 9 hours ago|||
Claude does at least use the British English version of the phrase to me - not sure whether its picking up a language setting or reacting to my spelling etc. The American version does sound odd over hear.
dfc 9 hours ago||
What's the difference between the two usages?
retsibsi 8 hours ago||
"Belt and braces" (UK) vs. "belt and suspenders" (US). I'm pretty sure the phrases have the same meaning, they just use a different word to refer to the thing that holds pants|trousers up.
tpholland 7 hours ago||
And the word "suspenders" in British English means what Americans would call a garter belt, hence it sounding particularly odd over here.
graemep 7 hours ago|||
That is what I had in mind. I was also wondering what American call them so thanks for answering that.
nprateem 4 hours ago||
Americans call bum bags fanny packs. Always raises a smile.
drcongo 7 hours ago|||
The US usage is much kinkier
nickip 9 hours ago||
Worth doing before merge if you want the belt and suspenders.
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