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Posted by vimarsh6739 1 day ago

Inkling: Our Open-Weights Model(thinkingmachines.ai)
1154 points | 279 commentspage 6
thatxliner 17 hours ago|
audio??? can it listen to music
figomore 20 hours ago||
Splatoon LLM
slim 20 hours ago||

  The MoE design largely follows DeepSeek-V3
why is the model never compared to deepseek in their blog post ?
jijji 21 hours ago||
competition in this space is great, especially with open models/weights. I think the answer is not closed source models. Similar to the Unix versus Linux situation in the 1990's, open source wins out. Yesterdays story about how OpenAI has now began encrypting traffic between model and agent [0], this story brings a breath of fresh air. There is nothing "Open" about hiding the communication between model and agent, especially with software that is running within a trusted environment/network. It needs to be more transparent, not less.

[0] https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/openai-hide...

verdverm 23 hours ago||
If it's ~30% bigger and not as good as GLM 5.2, why would I tinker with this model?

Maybe for the multi modal?

Aurornis 23 hours ago||
> If it's ~30% bigger and not as good as GLM 5.2, why would I tinker with this model?

The benchmarks never tell the full story. Some of the open weights models have been benchmaxxed for a while. Their utility on real work can be different than the benchmark number.

The multimodal input is also a big deal. Having vision input is really helpful for a lot of tasks.

speedping 23 hours ago|||
I second that. Gemini 3.5 Flash rocks the benchmark charts but is terrible as an agent. Horrible instruction adherence and makes WAY too many tool calls
luckydata 23 hours ago||
which cheap models have you found work best as agents?
verdverm 21 hours ago||
Most of the bigger open weight models are pretty good. You can get them per-token from companies like Fireworks or OpenCode
buremba 23 hours ago|||
Then why are they publishing the benchmarks which makes them look worse than GLM 5.2?
godelski 22 hours ago|||
Because it's still informative
buremba 22 hours ago||||
I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted but I didn't mean it in a negative way.

For such announcement, I would expect them to give me clues on when I should use this model and in which cases it's the best one.

The benchmarks that they share doesn't indicate that it's cheaper to run than other models, or can fit in my local machine, or excels in a specific vertical.

After reading the comments here and X, I can see it being the top-3 multi-modal open-source model though.

verdverm 23 hours ago|||
being close is still impressive, especially for their first (released) model

gives me hope that the training moat is even smaller than we thought

gkapur 23 hours ago|||
If they have a really seamless fine-tuning experience and maybe can help you extract the data you need to FT (which is one of the big challenges in actually getting fine-tuning democratized), maybe you would use it because "Tinker" defaults to it.

The model could also be more flexible for non-coding use-cases (they show the results for reasoning being strong) so maybe the argument is to use it for non-coding use-cases to drive relatively deterministic conclusions for non-coding agents (they have also done some determinism work on kernels, which could be useful in pulling on that thread of deterministic models that are fine-tuned for everything that is not writing code.)

That said, I'm not sure how much all the work they have done actually synergizes or if the market size (at least in the short to medium term) is big enough for a huge outcome from the company's current valuation with those bets as the enterprise agent estate is taking a while to evolve. Hence companies like Anthropic and OpenAI are throwing tons of consulting money at the problem.

Flux159 23 hours ago|||
There's also an Inkling-Small that is 276B, 12B active that is much smaller than GLM 5.2 and still multimodal. Not released yet, but in the announcement link they mention that they're testing Inkling-Small & will release as open weight after testing. That one may be interesting as a Deepseek V4 Flash replacement.
pizlonator 23 hours ago||
> Maybe for the multi modal?

Yeah

dominotw 19 hours ago||
everyone and their grandma shipping top tier models now. anthropic and openai trying to capture the app layer with their shitty 'super app'
yellowlimetea 17 hours ago|
We always have been, Big Tech has been extremely slow to catch up to the indies.

Nobody is making money lmao.

I would not bet on OpenAI creating any good products, they never have. They are like Meta in all this - never innovated anything themselves, can only acquire others to stay relevant. They'll never do an incredible consumer experience on the level of a PlayStation or Blizzard or even Google.

insane_dreamer 21 hours ago||
I think we’re going to start seeing more OSS models that perform especially well on certain tasks instead of trying to be generalists like the frontier models. That’s a winning formula because if you’re building an app on a model it often has a specific set of use cases
2001zhaozhao 20 hours ago||
I really respect the epistemtics work here. It might become an accurate, inexpensive open-weight workhorse for high-level prioritization and decision-making work. (Finance bros will also love this)
trilogic 22 hours ago||
You certainly cooking smth, Good Luck Mira.
raverbashing 23 hours ago|
Cool, now we just need the GPU that supports it
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