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Posted by mcgin 1 day ago

The lost joy of music piracy(www.pigeonsandplanes.com)
777 points | 523 commentspage 8
self_awareness 22 hours ago|
It's not really about piracy in general, it's mostly about What.CD.

Equivalent of what.cd today is RED.

But, TBH, most of the pirated music today is on YouTube anyway.

daniel-smid 22 hours ago|
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squishington 15 hours ago||
It also had a sense of community that was never quite replicated on RED. The freeleech events were fun. I remember there was a release request for Kirk Van Houten's "Can I Borrow a Feeling?".
yesbut 23 hours ago||
weird, I still love pirating music.
ocd 23 hours ago||
Hard to argue against it when you get memory holed by playlist entry removals by a cloud service. Much easier living having everything at `.config/mpd/playlists` with git history.
tonyhart7 21 hours ago||
You couldnt be serious
ocd 12 hours ago||
I'm very serious. It's not a simple matter to get any sort of exportable data from these cloud services, and they won't bother to notify you that media that was on your playlist or in your library has been removed. I gave Apple Music a try for about a year. and even that relatively small migration was hellish.

I have an easy time managing a playlist through the many available audio player frontends writing to an .m3u which is itself usable as a file path list in scripts to copy the music from my library to an external device.

dxbednarczyk 23 hours ago|||
Still very much alive! Just not as popular with the advent of $10/mo all-you-can-eat streaming services.
konart 23 hours ago||
This. I do use Spotify, but this has nothing to do with my local music collection. Admittedly, mostly pirated.
silon42 22 hours ago||
I don't use Spotify, but I would consider it if I could download maybe 1 or 2 mp3 per month for offline use.
4lx87 12 hours ago||
Anybody remember what.cd?
erayack 17 hours ago||
RIP to the golden age of file sharing.
dfxm12 15 hours ago||
I feel like when you glorify gatekeeping piracy like oink or apparently what.cd had, you've lost the plot.

Piracy is largely a response to arbitrary rules in media distribution, like how, where, when or even if you can buy something. Hiding piracy behind a "textbook-length list of rules" is bad just as the system it is responding to.

kyboren 13 hours ago|
No, it was a much better system.

Like all piracy, it didn't condition access on payment. And like all P2P, more users (because free) meant more content available to everybody.

The rules weren't perfect, but they imposed order and organization and prevented harmful (for P2P networks) duplication and fragmentation. Like any society, the rules helped to provide a framework to solve a coordination problem in a hopefully-global-utility-maximizing way.

The result was a vibrant community cooperatively maintaining a virtual Library of Alexandria of music where library cards were cost free.

meerita 20 hours ago||
Convenience always wins over nostalgia.
RickJWagner 16 hours ago||
It was chilling how government and courts squashed musical piracy by making very public examples of a few violators.

Here’s an example, a Minnesota woman who was fined $1.9 million dollars for 24 downloaded songs.

I’d suspect lobbying from the entertainment industry was a factor.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2009/06/18/woman-ordered-to-pa...

dyauspitr 9 hours ago||
I kind of just stopped listening to music once I got past my early 30s unless it’s incidental. I just don’t have the desire to seek it out and listen to it anymore but I still enjoy music. Is this common?
bethekidyouwant 10 hours ago||
I have to disagree it’s much easier now: turn on your portable speaker start playing music with your friends and then you pass your phone around and they choose songs to play next and then low and behold your recommendations become mixed with your friends tastes.
1970-01-01 13 hours ago|
So, it appears just enough time has passed that what.cd domain is availabe. There is nothing stopping anyone (just a few $$$) from rebuilding it very quietly. The lost joy can return if you're stupid enough to try.
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