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Posted by pilililo2 17 hours ago

OnePlus halts operations in USA and Europe(community.oneplus.com)
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Marciplan 8 hours ago|
so they settled?
m00dy 16 hours ago||
It’s been irrelevant in the market for a while now.
jcbrand 16 hours ago|
I love my OnePlus 9 pro phone. What would be a good replacement?
rippeltippel 15 hours ago|||
How about Nothing phones? I'm considering those, when my OP7 will die.
xiaoyu2006 14 hours ago|||
Not quite worth its high price
denidoman 16 hours ago||||
Pixel 10 Pro, if you are not into games and fast charging is not a priority.
darkwater 16 hours ago||||
Fairphone 6 maybe? It's on my radar when my Pixel 6a dies
amarant 15 hours ago||
My wife had fair phone 4, and it was unusable. It was only time she replaced a phone prematurely. She cares a lot about camera though, and likes to take pictures. Her main complaint was that the camera took like 5 seconds to start, so she'd miss the moment. And when it did finally start the quality was really bad.

I tried using it a bit but I couldn't stand how unresponsive it was.

I don't know if their later phones have gotten better,I hope so, because I love everything about that company except their (previous) products.

darkwater 14 hours ago|||
I think Gen6 should be good enough for basically everything from what I read, but I haven't tried one live yet. The other option is a Pixel 9-something once the 11 is out. but I like the e/OS support of the Fairphone and at some point I want to jump ships.
workingonit3 14 hours ago|||
The fairphone 6 is much better! I've found it to be pretty snappy and the screen quality is nice. Can't speak to the camera quality, but the startup time is not slow.
small_model 15 hours ago||||
Apple Phones are the best by a huge distance.
greenavocado 16 hours ago|||
Any Pixel from the past few years
ineedaj0b 16 hours ago||
RAM prices take down another.
Luker88 16 hours ago||
...but why?
AndrewThrowaway 16 hours ago||
I think they lost their direction and at the same time customer appeal. When OpnePlus started it was something new, now I have no reason to choose OnePlus for some time already.
mdasen 15 hours ago|||
When OnePlus started, they were considerably cheaper than flagship phones from others. At $299, the OnePlus One was a ton less than the $650 you'd pay for an iPhone 6 or Galaxy S5. You were getting a 95% flagship phone at half the price. You could get a OnePlus One with the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon or you could get a Samsung with 30% the performance and a 640x480 low-res display for the same price.

I feel like the "something new" was price. Over time, that price kept creeping up. Yes, it went from being a 95% flagship to being a 100% flagship, but it also went from being half price to full price.

It was also cool that it used Cyanogenmod which meant you got a community OS that actually got updates, but over time other manufacturers started offering updates for their phones (rather than abandoning them soon after manufacturing). And that was something new other than price. But I think the big thing was that it was a half-price phone when it launched. In 2014, it was just such an amazing deal. Today, it's the same price as Samsung phones.

nicce 16 hours ago||||
I bought many of the first models. They were good and very competitive with price and features. Custom ROMs everywhere. But I guess this is not so true anymore.
paddim8 14 hours ago||
It is true. The OnePlus Nord are really good for the price
mrweasel 16 hours ago|||
OnePlus was always a strange proposition to me. I remember debating it with colleagues when the hype started around their first phone. A lot of people and reviewers went crazy over the OnePlus phone, to me it seemed, and still does, as a pretty standard Android phone. The last review I saw was Linus Tech Tips reviewing the latest OnePlus, and Carl Pei commented that maybe Linus issue was that he was used to flagship phones and his expectations was a bit to high.

That really sums it up to me, then OnePlus phones are pretty standard Android phones, they are not really special, at least not to the extend where the brand means all that much to all but a minority of people.

JustSkyfall 16 hours ago|||
If I had to guess, it's because the phone market is largely dominated by Apple and Samsung, and so it'd be/has been very hard for OnePlus to actually sell their phones there.
rwyinuse 16 hours ago|||
Where I'm from OnePlus has actually sold pretty well, competing with price. But then again Finland is one of the most broke countries in EU, so lots of people are price-conscious. Hopefully Oppo will bring some replacement models with equally good price-performance ratio.

I paid 130 euros brand new for my Nord CE 5 with 8GB/128GB configuration. Couldn't be happier with the purchase. All I care is about price/performance ratio and the years of updates promised.

paddim8 14 hours ago||
Finland is not one of the most broke countries in the EU...
rwyinuse 13 hours ago||
We have the highest unemployment rate in EU, and fast growing public debt (7th highest right now). Trust me, ordinary people here are quite broke after we consider the living expenses.

It's expected that in 4 years our debt to GDP ratio will reach that of Spain right now. And Spain's ratio is decreasing. We'll be right there with Greece, Italy and France soon enough, and I doubt unemployment will get any better.

dtech 16 hours ago|||
There are minor Android players who seem to be standing their ground, so something has to be different here. Nothing, Xiaomi/Redmi, Motorola
swiftcoder 15 hours ago||
> minor Android players ... Xiaomi

Xiaomi appears to be the 3rd largest smartphone manufacturer in the world (behind Samsung and Apple). Not sure I'd call them a "minor player"

w4yai 16 hours ago||
RAMageddon ?
freestanding 10 hours ago||
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xbas 16 hours ago||
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snootypoot 11 hours ago||
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madhacker 5 hours ago||
What's the real reason for the exit from USA and Europe?
bux93 16 hours ago||
>As part of the proactive global strategy adjustment, OnePlus has decided to conclude new product rollouts in Europe and North America.

So.. they will roll out new products, conclusively? They will sell the same new products globally, including in Europe and North America? They will.. stop selling new phones because they can't form an intelligible sentence? That's the one.

xnorswap 16 hours ago|
If you're going to be pedantic, at least first check you're correct.

Conclude - verb - to bring to an end.

bux93 14 hours ago||
I'm not being pedantic, I'm saying their word salad is hard to read. As demonstrated by half of the messages in here arguing about what actually happened and whether the headline is correct.

It's not hard to say "We will not launch new models of OnePlus phones in Europe and NA. Current models will remain on sale, will still be supported and your warrantee is unchanged."

A pedant might say that telling people to use simpler words is the opposite of being "ostentatiously scholarly".

xnorswap 12 hours ago|||
I probably shouldn't even engage, so hopefully this doesn't come across as too patronising.

If you're genuinely confused about the statement in question, let's break it down.

> OnePlus has decided to conclude new product rollouts in Europe and North America

Replace "to conclude" with the definition "to bring to an end". This becomes:

> OnePlus has decided to bring to an end new product rollouts in Europe and North America

That is a very clear message, that there will be no new products released in Europe and North America.

The arguments about the headline elsewhere in this comment section is because the HN headline doesn't reflect that clear message. The HN headline says "halts operations", which implies an immediate end of support.

amarant 15 hours ago|
Good. I have a OnePlus 8t and it's the worst phone I've ever owned. I've hated it since day one, but I'd feel bad replacing a new phone, so I've kept it all these years anyway. It's now old enough for me to consider a replacement (finally!). This announcement doesn't really change anything for me, I'd never buy OnePlus again anyway, but at least it keeps others from making the same mistake I did.

They seem to have a lot of goodwill from customers. I'll never understand why.

Written from my OnePlus 8t.

I think the t is for "trash"

neogodless 14 hours ago||
Did I miss something, or did you not list any reasons why you do not like the phone? They have a lot of good will from customers because they like their phones...

(great screens, high refresh rate, great photos with a much lighter touch of automatic processing compared to Samsung, awesome physical switch, excellent battery life, fast charging.)

amarant 14 hours ago||
The issues are legion. First thing I noticed was the addition of bloat. The "stock android"was a main selling point for me, but I do not feel they delivered. The ultra fast charging has been nice on occasion, but I think it's done more harm than good: the battery deteriorated faster than any phone I've had before it. I've had lots of issues with the usb-c port, it keeps spitting out cables, occasionally doesn't connect properly. The behind-the-screen fingerprint reader is a really cool feature, unfortunately it's so unreliable I've stopped using it completely since it's faster to use the pin code than doing 8 scans of my finger. Lately the power button has stopped working which is super annoying, if I run out of batteries my phone is dead until an alarm rings, which turns it on again. The sound slider is a cool idea, unfortunately it interacts weirdly with several apps. The worst of which is it opens "find in page"in my web browser any time I touch it. Oh and it became loose and occasionally switches on its own, but that's wear and tear I guess... There is so much wrong with this phone...
neogodless 14 hours ago||
And these were issues you had with the phone on day one?
amarant 10 hours ago||
The loose sound switch and broken power button came later, but the rest was day one.
Grombobulous 14 hours ago|||
Some unsolicited life advice: don’t feel bad about getting rid of stuff that you don’t like (or in the words of Marie Kondo, doesn’t “spark joy”).

If you had sold that phone to someone else it wouldn’t be wasted. Someone else would have continued to use it.

I don’t claim to know your financial situation but it probably would have been worth the loss.

frollogaston 9 hours ago||
Problem isn't throwing away the old phone, it's getting a new one. I was like this with the iPhone 6. I don't really care and just need a phone that works, but separately, the 6 was the worst iPhone ever cause of batterygate.
robertlagrant 15 hours ago||
I've had a few OnePlus phones - currently a Nord 4 - and have always found them good value for money. Early OnePluses (I think I had a 2 or 3 originally) were incredible value. Also, very fast charging and almost stock Android are lovely features.

I don't understand why you don't like them, because you haven't said!

amarant 14 hours ago||
Yeah I've also heard good things about their early devices, which was why I got this one. Maybe they used to be good? As of the 8t, they definitely weren't good anymore though